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Sorry he can't take his new gun to the debates!
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cipher
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot one.

Someone made a "strawman" purchase with the intent to present a modern firearm to someone else without the recipient filling out and signing an ATF Form 4473.

That is a MAJOR no-no!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cipher,

That's why I hedged with the goobly gook about paperwork. I've been out of the gun toting business for awhile.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh. Well, you probably don't live in a "gun a month" state.

You get to buy a gun a month. No one likes it, but it's the law.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would only be a "straw purchase" if Kerry paid or otherwise provided services to the giver in exchange for the shotgun. There is no Federal waiting period; the FBI's NICS (National Instant Check System) can validate the transaction over the phone (usually). The buyer had to pass the check; not Kerry.

The only problem that I see here is that the Remington 11-87 (I think) that he was given would be one of the first guns to be banned after the so-called Assault Weapons. Kerry did, in fact, co-sponser a ban on semi-auto shotguns with "pistol grips." The way it was worded, anything but a straight grip semi-auto shotgun would probably have been banned.

IMHO, John Kerry is the only "hunter" in the entire United States that wears blaze orange as camoflage.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....and then at a rally Cheney says (paraphrased) "well if you elect our opponents, and then there's another terrorist attack, they will deal with it as a police action." And Edwards comes out yelling today: "Cheney said if you elect John and I and there was another terrorist attack it would be your fault!!" or "Cheney said if you elect us it would cause another terrorist attack" -- whatever -- waaagh!! there was so much angry whining I don't know exactly what point he was making, but it was NOT what Cheney said. Edwards is going nuts over a mythical attack!

Yet here we have an unstable Kerry making jokes about bringing a gun to the debates -- do you suppose Bush will come out tomorrow yelling that Kerry wants to shoot him?? I'm going to bet you if he says anything at all, it will be a joke. (Such a difference in maturity, to say the very, very least....) When I looked at Drudge today and saw that picture and that caption, I didn't know any of the story being discussed here -- all I thought was, what a very, very strange thing to say.....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IMHO, John Kerry is the only "hunter" in the entire United States that wears blaze orange as camoflage.


He's trying to hunt amongst traffic cones and orange barrels?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's trying to hide amongst hunters.

His true colors match those of Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Ted Kennedy.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Hannity said Kerry was like a chameleon put on a plaid tablecloth.

If you try to be all things to all people, you end up being nothing to no one.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you gotta be...

The problem with your theory is that if he hunted in NJ, the drivers here would definitely mow him down.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The problem with your theory is that if he hunted in NJ, the drivers here would definitely mow him down.


Now there's a thought! Any chance of convincing him that blaze orange is the perfect camouflage for hunting on roads under construction?

(I just thought that Kerry dressed in blaze orange would resemble a giant traffic cone, which was the reason for my original comment.)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he heard about Zell and that duel discussion...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...if he hunted in NJ...


You'd have to put cow horns and udders on the traffic cones and paint them black and white so they look like deer....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twodogs wrote:
Poor Kerry. Sad If he can't take his shotgun to the debates he'll have to rely on his brain power. Then he will be unarmed. Very Happy


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Still

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Good One, twodogs!
from a former Rock Springs, WY resident!!

I can't imagine Kerry hunting in WY or in WV!!
If he got lost and thought he was in Cambodia,
what will happen to him on the endless desert landscape of WY
or in the 'jungle" habitat of WV??
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When this was brought to Remington's attention, the President of Remington made it clear he doesn't support Kerry:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040907/nytu290_1.html?printer=1

My husband and I shoot trap, and these Dems are out to eventually take away all of our gun rights. It's really bad in California.

I found a gun site last night that has a picture of Kerry with a shotgun, of course being handled improperly, and a shell is flying out hitting him or almost hitting him in the eye. Someone titled it, Kerry's 4th purple heart?

Kerry should not be handling a fire arm without eye and ear protection. His PR about being a hunter or sportsman is so silly! And he is out to take away our gun rights, same as all the rest of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, If anybody else had said that, they would be in jail.
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