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hopeful · Seaman Recruit Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 38

BOR was all about saving his ratings. The crew here pushed him to the wall and he had no choice. Let's keep it up. This could be the end of johnny boy, the msm and lily livered talking heads ( I still think that is quite an ironic nautical term). BOR finally read the book after he spewed the venom. It is too late Bill!
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rmeals · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:55 am Post subject:

Having watched his interview (it seems so long ago) with Gardner I was interested to see how this one went. In the Gardner interview he was very rude, essentially called him a liar, cut off his answers, claimed his staff had researched things and discovered, for instance, that Dr. Letson wasn't a real doctor and a liar (or words to that effect) and that the whole thing with the SBVT was the work of extremist bombthrowers. I am still waiting for him to appologize to Steve Gardner and Dr. Letson. I also wonder why his staff had to do more research since in the Gardner interview he claim they had done their research.

This new interview was progress but he filled it with excuses for Kerry. I feel the only reason he did it was to take some heat off his ratings. He didn't come across as a blowhard because he saw the backlash from the Mathews/Michelle thing and didn't want to dig a bigger hole. I think this was more of a "I'll do the interview and then it will all go away" kind of thing. When he was after issues like United Way and Jesse Jackson he was never this passive. Between he and Mathews, it is almost like they are running scared... ratings are everything to these guys.

Regarding the youthful mistakes kind of things, I thought the idea was that when you became an adult you had to face adult consequences. As a officer in the Navy those consequences include life and death. I for one never took time out when I was young to negotiate with the enemies of the United States or give false testimony to Congress or go to meetings where the assasination of politicians was debated.
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sparky 36 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 29 Location: Az.

I think Mr O Neill did a great job again and I salute him and the rest of the swift boat vet's. They have put a lot on the line for all of us that wore the uniform.
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mangdawg · Lt.Jg. Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 116

Integrity · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:07 am Post subject:

Fact is Bill O'Reilly doesn't have a political agenda. He has a financial agenda to make as much for himself as he can. To do this requires advertising dollars which requires ratings. Period.

While I too would like O'Reilly to have come out strongly on the side of the Swift Vets, I would also like Kerry to be flattened in the course of a week by a tidal wave of revelations. Neither is likely to happen.

Frankly it will be far more satisfying for Kerry to die a thousand deaths one slice at a time, metaphorically, over the next 56 days.

The link between John Kerry and the evil that wants this nation to fall is direct. The old media is not going to cover it, or uncover it if you will. It remains for the new media to do the heavy lifting. The Swift Vets represent ground zero for Kerry's treacherous and ugly conduct. They have done a magnificent job of raising awareness through the media filter.

The more I read about the events of the 70's (when I was a high school and college student oblivious to the culture war erupting around me) the angrier I get and the more determined I get to see the wrongs of the past righted in the present. The defeat and humiliation and repudiation of John Kerry and his like minded colleagues would be a good step in the right drection.
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Kathy Kay · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:11 am Post subject:

I'm an interloper here. I'm a girl (sort of -- definitely female but maybe too old to refer to myself as a "girl"), not old enough to have served in Vietnam, and very, very respectful of what this website means to all of you.

Having said that, I'm going to stick my two cents in anyway.

Who said "keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer"?

So many people in this thread have identified the BOR psyche (to the extent it can be identified). Many of you are angry, won't watch anymore, feels he's self-agrandized through this interview, none of which I disagree with.

I've been a long time BOR watcher and agree with many of your assessments. But what I saw tonight (as many of you have noted) is that he's had to come around from his original position because (1) this issue isn't going away and (2) he's gotten way too many e-mails from you guys (as he's admitted).

He's trying to move around without losing face, I think. In his usual "fair and balanced" way, he insinuated that he would ask these same tough questions to Kerry when he talks to him.

If there's one thing we all know it's this -- Kerry would never be caught dead on that program.

So what do we do? Send billiosn of e-mails thanking BOR for the courtesy, the insightful questions, yadda, yadda, yadda, and tell him how much we look forward to his asking equally piercing questions to Kerry -- stoking the fire to have him get Kerry on the show.

If there's one thing BOR can't stand it's for someone to, in his words, be "too much of a coward" to come on his show. Knowing that Kerry won't show, panting to BOR how we can't wait to see him be "fair and balanced" with Kerry sets the stage for him to start firing on Kerry too -- he must be too scared or guilty to face the great interrogator BOR.

I'm really serious guys. There is a real opportunity here to have BOR turn on Kerry in a big way. I'm an advocate of gaining ground whever you can, even if you don't like the hosts of the ground you're gaining. I just don't think it can hurt -- we know what Bill is, we're just figuring out his price.

GiveMeFreedom · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 279 Location: Wisconsin

BOR was excusing Kerry, somewhat "because he was young", but I think O'Neill was a good calm orator of the facts. Anyone notice that he was able to say "Kerry's boat fled" THREE times? Laughing

That was toooo funny! Over all, I think it has probably, at the very least, enticed people to read the book to see the Swifties side! I think that is a good day's work! Take it home John!
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kate · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:17 am Post subject:

Great take on BOR KathyKay

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Nomorelies · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:29 am Post subject:

You are right. Kerry is too much of a coward to go on BOR's show. As a matter of fact, Kerry cannot go on any shows. He can't do a live interview because he cannot be in any position where he might be asked a question he doesn't or cannot answer honestly or otherwise. He is triangulated and trapped. I rather like the slow death method myself.
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