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tiptie · Lt.Jg. Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 138 Location: Colorado

I am in Indianapolis at a convention hotel and BOR and O'Neil are coming up RIGHT now!

Must be a delayed broadcast.

Steve Z · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:38 am Post subject: O'Reilly interview

Although the O'Neill / O'Reilly interview may have been disappointing for those embittered by what Kerry did to them in 1971, O'Neill did make lots of progress in that interview.

O'Reilly, after reading "Unfit for Command", did agree that Kerry had had an anti-war agenda BEFORE going to Vietnam, which few others in the media have mentioned. He also allowed O'Neill to get in several key facts:

1) Kerry got his Purple Hearts for "three scratches", interested in leaving Vietnam ASAP.

2) The Kerry campaign's version of the Rassmann rescue (all boats fled except "hero" Kerry who rescued Rassmann) was debunked--Kerry's boat fled while the others saved the No. 3 boat.

3) The Vietnam veterans are more upset about Kerry's accusing them of war atrocities than glorifying himself for medals.

4) Kerry met with the North Vietnamese while American troops were still in Vietnam.

O'Reilly obviously didn't put enough emotion into his responses to O'Neill's statements, especially those about Kerry's accusing the veterans of war atrocities and meeting with the enemy. He is still trying to bury the issue, but he DID say to "read the book", which might incite people to do just that and draw their own conclusions.

But I've heard Bill O'Reilly rant and rave, and rudely berate and interrupt other guests with whom he disagrees, but he was comparatively gentle with O'Neill. It wasn't a slam dunk, but SBVT did, thanks to O'Neill's unflappable calm, get their foot in the No Spin Zone, and a plug for the book. Given O'Reilly's large audience, it's better to have him as a "neutral" observer than a hostile bloviator.

A big step forward...

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Integrity · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:39 am Post subject:

Well what are we at ? day 37 of the Kerry won't talk to anyone of consequence watch ? Of course he won't go on O'Reilly. He'll sit down eventually with Katie Couric or some such cream puff.

Kerry was young, if you consider 27 that young. But he was definetly not naive. He was coldly calculating about what he was doing both in his "tours of duty" and in his testimony. There was nothing chance, random, or impetuous about it. He needed war hero status for his JFK resume, he needed anti-war hero status to be politically viable in Massachusetts. He believes he is entitled to be President. He hasn't earned respect, admirarion or even the right to be treated in a civil manner. He is a disgusting traitor to his fellow servicemen and to his country.
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tiptie · Lt.Jg. Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 138 Location: Colorado

You folks have covered it all. No need to go over it again.

The bottom line from BOR................"read the book"

Bingo!

jack white · Seaman Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 179

producehawk · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 463

I watched it for the second time. The transcript will be better than the live show. But all in all this is very daming for kerry. Having BOR come out so strong against us in the begining, and basically caving in now (as best his ego will let him) just makes the swiftys look better and better. Best plug yet for the book. Lots of people will be reading it. Bill said he enjoyed it very much. I give the interview a 9 out of ten stars. Only because the 180 form was not brought up.

msindependent · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:01 am Post subject:

When Bill said that he was going to ask Kerry that, I never thought he was talking about asking him while he was on the show. Bill knows Kerry is not going to be on his show. It was such a casual comment, I thought Bill meant the next time he saw Kerry. It was like they were friends. I will have to watch the rerun (maybe I missed something).

dmackto · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:04 am Post subject: sent feedback to o'reilly

I sent the following to askbill@billoreilly.com

Stevie · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:05 am Post subject:

O'Neill was absolutely awsome! what a contrast to Kerry! Kerry - screeching ' it's a bush smear tactic!'

KathyKay has a good idea.... there's lots of us.... half of us write to bill about what he missed, his not really so good reasearch, his blow off of Kerry because he was young and foolish (and it's never ended????? ) and making light of being awarded medals.... and quoting Hackworth! (that ain't getting him any points) etc.

and half of us write to smooch him up.... to get Kerry on.... Kerry may never show up, but all we really need is Bill to keep mentioning it....

GenrXr · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:17 am Post subject:

O'Neill performed very well and some people said they sensed nervousness from him. Well I think they mis-read O'Neill. What I saw was O'Niell on the verge of saying something which has yet to be discussed. O'Neill bit his lip and went through the motions and we will see with the further ads what it was he bit his lips over. The constraints of limited time prevented O'Niell from coming out with something devastating during his BOR appearance. His objective was to show truthful resolve in the face of a skeptic which was accomplished. But he did bite his lip doing it.
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msindependent · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:17 am Post subject:

I was young and foolish too, but no one, except myself, was ever disgraced or harmed by it.

SteamSnipe · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:18 am Post subject: Good show IMHO

I can't see the reason for all the negative posts regarding the show. Mr O'Neill was able to lay out a lot of facts, and that is important for people who haven't read the book yet or visited this site. I haven't received my copy of the book yet, and ordered it over two weeks ago from Border's, but luckily this site has such a wealth of information that I have been able to form my opinions from all the detailed analyses put together in the resources section by hard working posters like NavyChief, ASPB, jrsdad, and hundreds of others. If the book is as damning as the evidence compiled on this site, just the fact the O'Reilly told people to read the book is a huge boon. I do agree, though, the BOR saying under his breath that he believed Rassman's story kind of stuck in my craw, and I wish Mr O'Neill would have been afforded the opportunity to point out there was no damage to all the other boats besides PCF3 even though they were DIW for 90 minutes salvaging the mine damaged craft and affecting rescue of it's crew. That is the fact that turned me into a true believer.

dusty · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: Re: sent feedback to o'reilly

GenrXr · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Good show IMHO

Stevie · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:34 am Post subject:

It wasn't an ALL WIN.... but who of us really expected that?

John got great points out there....

Bill even got a few good points out there.... amazing

John showed - again - the the SBVTS weren't radical screeming idiots
(like some people on the left)

Bill came a long way around from what he said and thought before to what we heard tonight.

I think it was a plus for us.