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waltjones · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: Welcome

No problem, TruckSTR; you qualify, plus I'm interested in ALL vets' reaction to Kerry's mockery of Iwo Jima. Semper Fi!
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TRUTH108 · Guest

John Kerry has several books, but not this book. I have called Barnes and Noble, described the cover and they do not know of this book,

A Call to Service: My Vision for a Better America by John Kerry is available for sale.

Please advise as to where this book can be purchased.

JN173

waltjones · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject: denial

You're going up that old Egyptian river, FALSE108. That is Kerry's book; I'll get you the info if you want, but you can see practically the whole thing at www.wintersoldier.com. See his name above the photo? That IS his book, your ignorance notwithstanding, and as far I'm concerned - and every Marine I've shown it to - Kerry and his real "band of brothers" was mocking the Iwo Jima memorial. Open your eyes and earn your name; right now your huge lack of knowledge is making you look foolish. Thatisall ....
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Platoon Daddy · Seaman Recruit Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 5

Been reading this board for a week or so, and finally determined it was time for me to log in.
Brief military history:
MOS: 11B4P & 19E4H
Proudly served in the US Army for 21 years. Retired as an E-7 in 1997
Enlisted Sept. 1968
Basic: Ft. Campbell
Advanced Inf. Trng: Ft. McClealin
NCOIC (also known as "Shake and Bake school") Ft. Bennings
Jump School: Ft. Bennings
RVN: Oct 69 - Oct 70 ( 4th ID 2/35th Inf. & LRRP's )
1970 - 1971 : 82nd Airborne ( White Falcons )
ETS: Aug 71 (23 day early out for school)
USAR: Dec 78 - 1997 Was in Armor Component (ie. M48, M60, M1A1 series tanks)
Final gig was as M1A1 Abram Platoon Sgt.
Awards: Some (A couple were pinned on before being released from 67th Evac. Hosp in Quin Nhon.)

Am looking forward to hanging out with my fellow vets on this BB...can't think of a better group of individuals to be associated with.
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Armorer · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 14

First, to qualify myself... as the grandson of a WWII Pacific theater small boat pilot, the son of a Marine Vietnam veteran, the husband of a Gulf War II veteran Navy Nurse and most importantly, a Marine veteran myself (now seeking a commission in the Navy... yeah, yeah, I know... the Navy!?) here's my opinion, for what it's worth...

The image in question is par for the course and what I've come to expect from a political agenda so consumed with hatred that nothing is sacred. Maybe it's because I am younger than many of the Vets here... maybe it's my generation... but I'm not shocked. Angry? Sure, but I can't afford to get too angry or I'd never be able to function. This is the left's idea of modern politics. My great fear is that, as it did in the Vietnam generation, the left's low budget philosophies will be embraced by the wider culture via its traditional outlets of media and entertainment. This is why I thoroughly embrace the words of Col. Mike Wyly who said, "It is no longer enough for Marines to reflect the society they defend. They must lead it, not politically but culturally. For it is the culture we are defending". In the end, the only thing I can really do about John Kerry is vote against him. Unfortunately, or perhaps not, popular culture is not a democracy. If Marines and our brothers and sisters in arms from the other services lead from the front we can strive for a cultural revolution that will guarantee that those like John Kerry will rightly feel their shame instead of coming to power (be it the Senate or *shudder* the White House) inspite of their sins and on the backs of those they've sinned against. There is a culture gap widening between the military and those we have sworn to protect. Closing it means we must all surrender our sense of elitism and mingle again amongst the civilians. Get involved, talk to children write a book or a song or a screen play. Do anything you can because, though it seems our culture's moral compass may be turning, there's always a Michael Moore or Madonna out there ready to exploit our most cherished freedoms, traditions and accomplishments in order to promote their agenda. This image is the tip of an iceberg and small potatos to the media elites who are hard wired into pop-culture. We'll see alot more before this is through.

That's my 2 cents...

Semper Fidelis
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ASPB · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:03 am Post subject:

Welcome Aboard Armorer!

Joining the Navy? Jugs are Primo! But I personally like boats better than I like boots! Laughing

Keep your pot on jughead/squid! Laughing

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xsquid · Lt.Jg. Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 140

waltjones · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: The New Soldier

Thanks, xsquid. This is the first time I've heard an explanation outside of wintersoldier.com. My opinion differs from theirs a little: me, and every Marine I've shown this to, thinks that it is indeed a mockery of the Iwo Jima memorial. Maybe us Marines are just a little too touchy ..... Naaah!

Armorer: Welcome aboard, Marine, and well said. I hope you get that commission, even if it is with the squids! Semper Fi!
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DevilDon · Lt.Jg. Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Milwaukee

An update Walt;

I passed this on to my daughter and she's shown it to everyone she has an email address to at Camp Pendleton. Here's hoping the young salts understand the gall.

Semper Fi

waltjones · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: Thanks!

DevilDon: Out &%#$ing standing! Semper Fi!
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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

I just got my copy of "The New Soldier" and it appears that the parallel between the famous Iwo Jima photo was not lost on one of the attendees:

xsquid · Lt.Jg. Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 140

xsquid · Lt.Jg. Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 140

waltjones · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:26 pm Post subject:

Nope, us "squids" are with you "jarheads" on the idea of mocking the iwo Jima monument.

Thanks, xsquid. The more people that understand what he did, the less votes he's gonna get! Semper Fi!
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