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Sonar5 Seaman
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 167 Location: Caleeefornia
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Rathergate......2004 edition....
I've got a copuple others I'm putting together as well.
Enjoy,
Joe
_________________ Veteran-United States Marine Corps 1983-1989
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gulf1609 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 78
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if anyone has www.Rathergate as a web page yet. Would be a great place to list CBS advertisers.
Looks like it is not currently being used. Hmm
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W.P. Wily Lt.Jg.
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 101
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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He's still in the denial stage:
http://www.drudgereport.com/cbsd2.htm
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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX FRI SEPT 10, 2004 12:01:25 ET XXXXX
RATHER DIGS IN: THE DOCUMENTS ARE AUTHENTIC
CBSNEWS anchor and 60 MINUTES correspondent Dan Rather publicly defended his reporting Friday morning after questions were raised about the authenticity of newly unearthed memos aired on CBS which asserted that George W. Bush ignored a direct order from a superior officer in the Texas Air National Guard.
CNN TRANSCRIPT:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAN RATHER, CBS NEWS ANCHOR: I know that this story is true. I believe that the witnesses and the documents are authentic. We wouldn't have gone to air if they would not have been. There isn't going to be -- there's no -- what you're saying apology?
QUESTION: Apology or any kind of retraction or...
RATHER: Not even discussed, nor should it be. I want to make clear to you, I want to make clear to you if I have not made clear to you, that this story is true, and that more important questions than how we got the story, which is where those who don't like the story like to put the emphasis, the more important question is what are the answers to the questions raised in the story, which I just gave you earlier.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CBS NEWS executives on Thursday launched an internal investigation into whether its premiere news program 60 MINUTES aired fabricated documents relating to Bush's National Guard service, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "The reputation and integrity of the entire news division is at stake, if we are in error, it will be corrected," a top CBS source explained late Thursday.
Developing...
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Filed By Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
(c)DRUDGE REPORT 2004
Not for reproduction without permission of the author
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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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noc PO1
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Dublin, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Rather is in some serious denial.
He thinks that those who don't like the story are putting their emphasis on the fraudulent documents. |
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dcornutt PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know if this has been mentioned, but in the May 04 doc..the redaction, it's easy to bring out what's behind it in Photoshop by inverting the document ie..the black and white..and then using levels to pop it up.
It says 5000 Longmont #8.
tip: the "#" sign and it's kerning position relative to the 8 may give further clues here as to whether this was typed, typeset or done on a computer.
It's very hard to tell on this bad scan. But, it might come in handy if they every produce the original. |
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Sonar5 Seaman
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 167 Location: Caleeefornia
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: More Fun |
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More Fun.....
/Begin Parody Interview:
Clinton: "Hi John, thanks for taking my call"
Kerry: "hi Bill, hope your surgery turns out ok, what's up?"
Clinton: "Did you turn those documents over to Barnes that I gave to McCauliffe?"
Kerry: "Yes, but are you sure they're real?"
Clinton: "Of Course, I swear they're as real as my wife not running for President in 2008."
Kerry: "She isn't running, she keeps saying that, are you sure this isn't a plant?"
Clinton: "Would I do that, John, trust me, I want hillar...err....You to win."
Kerry: "Ok, I also got a call from Dan Rather and he swears they're authentic, and will do a story on them."
Clinton: "Ummm... err... Yeah, that's the ticket, I also think you should bring out some washed...errr... prominent senator to back this, you know someone like Harkin..."
Kerry: "I think I'll question Bush's service too, did you know I earned 3 purple gearts in Vietnam...."
Clinton: "Yes, John, the whole wolrd knows....." (heard in background.."Hillery this guy's a moron....") I gotta go John, Moinca is here to wish me wll..."
Kerry: "Ok, Bill, good luck in the surgery, and I undertsand you won't be well enough to campaign for me anymore, thank you though for your support.."
Clinton: "ok, seeya John.... Sucker...Hillery, shut the he..." click..(End of Conversation)
/END parody Interview _________________ Veteran-United States Marine Corps 1983-1989
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gulf1609 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 78
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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go vote in this poll. CNN trying to make people believe these documents are authentic.
http://www.cnn.com/
Do you think the recently released memos on President Bush's National Guard service are authentic?
Yes
No
VIEW RESULTS |
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Steve Z Rear Admiral
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 687 Location: West Hartford CT
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: Forged Documents could Cost Kerry the Election |
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/10/130050.shtml
According to Newsmax.com, Democratic strategist Pat Caddell believes that if the memos alleged to be written by Lt Col Jerry Killian are proved to be forgeries, "It would be the end of the race," Caddell told Fox News Live.
After Watergate comes Rathergate!
I hope Caddell is right, but SBVT need to run some more ads, just to make sure!
Here's the entire article from Newsmax.com
Longtime Democratic strategist Pat Caddell said Friday that if documents aired by CBS newsman Dan Rather Wednesday night turn out to be forged as alleged by experts, the presidential race "is over."
"It would be the end of the race," Caddell told Fox News Live. "It would be the end of the race," he repeated.
"[Democratic officials are] so involved in this," the former Carter pollster worried. "They have gotten themselves so involved in this issue, [in] the last 24 hours, that somebody's going to, if they're not authentic, they're going to be blamed for it. It's incredible to me that they've gotten in this."
Caddell said he wasn't trying be sensationalize the issue, explaining that instead, "I'm trying to save my party, you know, by telling the truth."
He said that forfeiting the presidential race would be the least of his party's problems if Democrats are tied to any forgery scandal.
"The race is over - and we've got bigger problems than that," he warned. _________________ The traitor will crater! |
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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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The 4 stages of the grieving process, according to Elizabeth Kubler Ross -
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Acceptance
I think Dan is currently moving between the first and second....
MJB
USAF '85-'92 |
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June Seaman Recruit
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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transferred to appropriate thread
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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They have only one hope now - a united, universal Clintonian stonewall.
Yeah, That's it! That's the ticket!
Oops, I forgot, Bill isn't President anymore and Janet Reno isn't the Attorney General.....sigh....I guess we're screwed! _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Nathanyl PO3
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | "[Democratic officials are] so involved in this," the former Carter pollster worried. "They have gotten themselves so involved in this issue, [in] the last 24 hours, that somebody's going to, if they're not authentic, they're going to be blamed for it. It's incredible to me that they've gotten in this."
Caddell said he wasn't trying be sensationalize the issue, explaining that instead, "I'm trying to save my party, you know, by telling the truth."
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I saw the end of the interview and the guy was genuinly upset and even angry about what his party is doing. |
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dcornutt PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Am I getting this right?
D Rather is basically saying, it doesn't matter if the documents are forged or not, the story is true because more than one person backs up that the story is true??
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Kimmymac Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 816 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Rather will be outed for what he is--a biased, leftist yellow journalist that loves himself above all else.
It is entirely natural and to be expected that he would be unable to admit these documents are forgeries, and he told us all exactly where he stands when he made the comment to the effect that, "...those who don't like what they say can not question where they came from..."
WHAT?? The credibility, or lack thereof, of sources is NOT a factor? Does CBS stand behind that statement? Because if so, CBS could give Pravda a lesson in biased journalism. Maybe it is time for a new slogan in MediaGate (why let Rather take all the heat? There is plenty enough fire to go around)
It's the LIES, stupid
Or maybe that would work for Kerry? Oh well, no matter. They are virtually one and the same.
Oh, and it is natural that Rather would go in to denial on this, because denial is a person's defense posture. Dratherblather's psyche must throw up a vehement defensive posture because he is so heavily invested in protecting his image-- which is all cross threaded with Kerry and his shameful testimony about "atrocities."
Now that Kerry has been shown for what he is (by this *great* group) Drather is being visited by the same Macbeth ghosts of Vietnam (not) past.
And you know, wrt the attacks on Bush, nothing says great defense like a good offense--especially if you are quilty. Thus Drather's foolish embrace of un-vetted docs.
Lost even a shallow appearance of objectivity on this one, Rather did.
Makes me happy. Like to see the guy go down in the flames of his own treachery, and sooner RATHER than later.
Sorry. Couldn't resist. |
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