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Uisguex Jack
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 Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject: Kerry's Constantly Collapsing House of Cards: Collier's |
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I was just checking the Kerry website, reading his military records which they have been so gracious to post. Albeit sad Kerry steadfastly refuses to release his complete records (form 180) I came upon good cause why this is so.
I was reading the Kerry records to compare the typefaces, further illuminating the moderately obvious/blaring evidence of Forgery. I recommend everyone take a look at them. I find some nostalgia in seeing what typed work used to look like.
The evidence of forgery is so obvious it's ridiculous. My initial impression is who ever executed the forgery has no military experience whatsoever and is too young to have ever used a typewriter.
Here's the thing. While reading his 'background' page:
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Background_Information.pdf
I noticed his previous employers........... Low and behold Colliers was one of his only two previous employers listed. On the surface this may seem insignificant, however Colliers is his family's 'blue-blood' management company. Today it is run by Kerry's first cousin.
When John Kerry went to Vietnam with John McCain in the early 90's to reopen official relations this very same company...... Colliers, this is who John Kerry signed a long term exclusive multi-billion dollar contract for the management of all Government held real estate in Communist Vietnam. In a communist nation the Government owns ALL real estate. Kerry's family profits from any and all project's involving any kind of building anywhere in Vietnam.... today!
I am not dumb as a rock.
This is a huge conflict of interest.
Maybe Dan Rather can look into this during his next vacation, huh? |
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EODARMY
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: Ethics |
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| It's a clear ethics violation in the Senate, but at that time the Senate was controlled by the Dems! Hard to believe this will not be covered in a future commercial! |
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jataylor11
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By the time this is done the stink will be worse than Watergate ever imagined being...
How often do we hear Halliburton, Saudi Oil money --- and I bet the money trail between Kerry and Vietnam is the worst ever. |
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GiveMeFreedom
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I just heard John Gibson (standing in for Bill O'Reilly today) mention that there is an old document on Pres. Bush's website regarding his military service that has the superscript after a number (can remember number...maybe 884th or something - caught tail end of story).
IT has numbers on the document without the superscript and 1 with. I'm wondering if maybe this isn't a forgery? I don't know, I suspect it is, but it would be one of those "almost too good to be true" things. Thoughts?
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MJB
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that I didn't know....another fascinating piece of the puzzle.
Thanks for tracking that down. Where could we go to read more about Colliers and this contract?
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DaveL
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| GiveMeFreedom wrote: | I just heard John Gibson (standing in for Bill O'Reilly today) mention that there is an old document on Pres. Bush's website regarding his military service that has the superscript after a number (can remember number...maybe 884th or something - caught tail end of story).
IT has numbers on the document without the superscript and 1 with. I'm wondering if maybe this isn't a forgery? I don't know, I suspect it is, but it would be one of those "almost too good to be true" things. Thoughts? |
I wonder if the document alleged to be on the Bush website simply has a "raised pseudo superscript", which could be done manually on old typewriters, or if it is a true "reduced text size superscript" (which would raise doubt about the document authenticity). The CBS documents have at least a half dozen different problems, in addition to the superscripts, proving that they are forgeries. |
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Geano
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Uisguex Jack
| Quote: | | I noticed his previous employers........... Low and behold Colliers was one of his only two previous employers listed. On the surface this may seem insignificant, however Colliers is his family's 'blue-blood' management company. Today it is run by Kerry's first cousin. When John Kerry went to Vietnam with John McCain in the early 90's to reopen official relations this very same company...... Colliers, this is who John Kerry signed a long term exclusive multi-billion dollar contract for the management of all Government held real estate in Communist Vietnam. In a communist nation the Government owns ALL real estate. Kerry's family profits from any and all project's involving any kind of building anywhere in Vietnam.... today! |
Can you supply the confirmation links for this info? Robert Cooper and I are working on an angle...this may be a biggie. I hadn't noted it, and I don't think Bob has. Isn't Colliers now "Crowell" or something?
Man, if you just knew how this might lock in with some other stuff...
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| Quote: | | Quote: | GiveMeFreedom wrote:
I just heard John Gibson (standing in for Bill O'Reilly today) mention that there is an old document on Pres. Bush's website regarding his military service that has the superscript after a number (can remember number...maybe 884th or something - caught tail end of story).
IT has numbers on the document without the superscript and 1 with. I'm wondering if maybe this isn't a forgery? I don't know, I suspect it is, but it would be one of those "almost too good to be true" things. Thoughts?
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I wonder if the document alleged to be on the Bush website simply has a "raised pseudo superscript", which could be done manually on old typewriters, or if it is a true "reduced text size superscript" (which would raise doubt about the document authenticity). The CBS documents have at least a half dozen different problems, in addition to the superscripts, proving that they are forgeries. |
I checked that out, and it would have to be faked. The rest of the document is in standard Courier font, and the other "th"s are as they should be: same font with paper rolled down half a space. No typewriter at the time had a small font "th" and if they did, they would have used it in the rest of the document. It took me about 10 miutes to take one of the legit "th"'s and shrink, cut and paste it into place using Photoshop.
Expect a lot of this as the Dems try last minute futile attempts to save Dan Rather and Kerry.
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DaveL
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| any link to that Bush website document? thanks. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| MJB wrote: | | Thanks for tracking that down. Where could we go to read more about Colliers and this contract? |
With the search function at the top of the page, enter the three words, colliers vung tau and select "All words" and Submit.
There is a TON of discussion about Colliers International and its exclusive contracts with Vietnam.
Awarded, coincidentally, after Kerry's POW/MIA committee declared that the government of Vietnam had been extremely helpful, fully cooperative on the POW/MIA issue - and made the recommendation that the US establish trade and diplomacy with Vietnam.
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You GottaBeKidding
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think that the doc y'all are talking about is fake. I'm willing to believe that there was a typewriter with regular typewriter print that had "th" and/or "st" as a superscript. That form may have been filled out by different people at different times, maybe on different typewriters. |
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Robert Cooper
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Do you know the name of his first cousin that now manages Collier's Management - the only first cousin I'm aware of is Brice Lalonde, a Socialist and Green Party leader in France who ran for president of France in 1981.
I'll need to run a search on this information.
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lrb111
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Check out this thread... SBD wrote it up and Colliers is in bold a few pages down.
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5344
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Beatrice1000
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| MJB wrote: | | Where could we go to read more about Colliers and this contract? |
Here's something about it that I have (if this is dupl'd, pls ignore)
“A few weeks after the Senate panel’s hearings had concluded, according to Center for Public Integrity, Kerry’s participation in the committee became “controversial” when Hanoi announced that it had awarded a fat contract to Boston real estate firm Colliers International, then headed by the senator’s cousin Stuart Forbes.”
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/17/164944.shtml |
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Uisguex Jack
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| sorry for not having responded sooner. I posted this topic and had to get back to work. Now it is one A. M., Tomorow I will supply a slew of links about 'Colliers'. |
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