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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:09 am    Post subject: Scarborough on commenting on Memo-Gate Reply with quote

He just said nearly everyone around him at MSNBC and the other networks is a Kerry supporter. Damn, that guy has some brass.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More importantly he mentioned the SwiftVets - said Rather wouldn't touch the SwiftVets, but jumped on Bush's TANG.

I think the SwiftVets are going to get a lot more mentions because of the CBS story. Never can tell where helps going to come from.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definately, this helps the Swifties, but more importantly this shows how truth wins out in the end. The internet is becoming a fact check organism that can only hurt the charlatan's deception of the masses. The Swifties have been shown to be honorable, truthful & principled through the work of thousands showing the deciet on the other side and noone to counter the Swifites from the left. Kerry has yet to address the charges the Swifties have made and never will. Kerry knows the truth and it is ugly. CBS in bed with the DNC spreading a lie and the internet dispelling it. This is monumental.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan Rather is too arrogant and too "old school" to realize that the world is changing under his very uplifted nose. The common people (as Terezzza) would have us be called, have learned to snoop and pry and investigate better than the crackpots at the MSM who spend most of their time preening their feathers instead of doing the grunt work. Dan Rather is dead meat. We just need to figure out a way to keep the pressure on his competition to go after him tooth and nail until he capitulates. The pressure will come from ABC and the Washington Post. They want his confession.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nomorelies wrote:
.... Dan Rather is dead meat. We just need to figure out a way to keep the pressure on his competition to go after him tooth and nail until he capitulates. The pressure will come from ABC and the Washington Post. They want his confession.
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The competitive model of capitalism will ensure some news organization, will smell blood and go after the weakend cBS looking for the kill and their market share. On the other hand, won't this ensure that the "herd" will be made stronger?..So is it good for MSM or bad for MSM? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NonLinear wrote:
Nomorelies wrote:
.... Dan Rather is dead meat. We just need to figure out a way to keep the pressure on his competition to go after him tooth and nail until he capitulates. The pressure will come from ABC and the Washington Post. They want his confession.
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The competitive model of capitalism will ensure some news organization, will smell blood and go after the weakend cBS looking for the kill and their market share. On the other hand, won't this ensure that the "herd" will be made stronger?..So is it good for MSM or bad for MSM? Laughing


There is no herd. See this is what the mass media doesn't understand. There are ignorant people and always will be, but it is not their job to educate them. It is everyones community responsibility to educate the people and what we are seeing is the internet winning out over the MSM in educating all communities.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add:

All I heard from everyone on all the news and radio shows was Swiftboat vets over and over today.

Every time a Democrat said it, it was with venom and the others were using it as facts.

It's working and working well for the truth to come out. I am so proud of the Swift vets and this country! I finally feel like someone stood up and said enough of the liberal socialist America hating BS.

I'm not a vet nor am I of Vietnam age. I am the child of Vietnam age parents who were not counter culture hippies. They resepcted this country and I'm sure there are more of them out there who have kids like me in their 30's who want what is right for America.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The internet is what it really is any more. They get to the truth
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:43 pm    Post subject: Scarborough... Reply with quote

leeinwv wrote:
The internet...get to the truth

How accurate but sad your comment is. We the people should not have to sift through mountains of material, determining for ourselves what is true and complete. Very simply, our founding fathers created the free and unfettered "fourth estate" for the express purpose of reporting the good and bad deeds of government. Implied in that constitutional concept is that the fourth estate must tell the truth.

Now that the MSM has breached the implied requirement for truth, we, the little people, must look elsewhere for accurate information. It seems to me our only alternative is the internet but that comes with a very high price in terms of time and morality. Clearly Rather and his ilk have contributed to such a legacy for a dying print and broadcast media. How sad.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, the death of the Nightly News, 6 O'Clock News and all the other news programs, can't come to soon. From the days of Cronkite and his ilk, this country has been getting slanted news and 10 seconds soundbites intended to influence the masses not unlike what Pravda and Tass of the old USSR did for their one party system. The newspapers and networks have historically supported Democrats, yet they have tried to convince us that their reporting is unbiased, yadayadayada.

Thanks to cable news programming like we see on Fox and all that is available to us on the 'Net, Americans can become more informed than ever before. All we need is some common sense, an open mind and the willingness to learn, coupled with some ability to separate the truth from the BS.

The MSM will regroup but their glory days are over. How they handled this whole SBVT issue, the fraud at CBS and the glorifying of traitor Kerry has become their Waterloo.

It really is fun watching the Democratic mouthpieces and the liberal media pundits squirm and dangle in the wind.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Encourage all your friends to abandon the traditional sources of news. You would be surprised at how many people do not even know there are alternatives which are far better.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:13 pm    Post subject: Scarborough... Reply with quote

Frank B wrote:
...For me, the death of the Nightly News, 6 O'Clock News and all the other news programs, can't come to soon....

Frank, after some wrestling, I agree with you. I guess my sadness is due to my undergraduate degree in journalism and the large number of fine, honest and patriotic individuals I've known over the years who practiced the trade. It's time for a change and the Rathers of the world simply speeded up the inevitable.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOM POOLE:

There ARE good people in the news business and my favorites are the pragmatic ones who get their facts straight before making critical commentary. Brit Hume and Tony Snow at Fox are two of my favorites who rely on guest commentators expert on subjects so foreign to many in the media.

It's the old truism: Power corrupts. We have seen people like Cronkite, Rather, Mike Wallace, Jennings, Brokaw, even O'Reilly over time become so full of themselves that everything they report has a jaundiced tinge to it.

They have either forgotten or it has become no longer important to them who they are really responsible to when they report the news: US.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Scarborough... Reply with quote

Frank B wrote:
There ARE good people in the news business and my favorites are the pragmatic ones who get their facts straight before making critical commentary. Brit Hume and Tony Snow at Fox are two of my favorites who rely on guest commentators expert on subjects so foreign to many in the media....

It is true the MSM has some good people, but it seems they are rarer these days. In the old days, journalism was a noble profession and truth, respect, patriotism, etc., were the rule RATHER than the exception. It seems to me the problem is giantism and media giants control the content by controlling the profession. Because no law may inhibit free speech, the often promoted idea to limit entanglements along with the dollars involved, cannot work. Thus, very few alternatives exist. IMO, the internet is the best one, albeit not ideal. Thanks for this open discussion.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MSM are also slanted with weather. if it might rain or snow the least bit on the heavy side they will interrupt your programming with bulletins and report that this storm is so terrible that you shouldnt go outside (and stay home instead and watch their station more) It wasnt always like that. only in the last 10 years have the weather forecasts gotten into distorting the seriousness.
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