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Swiftboat Vet's Blamed For Rathergate Memo's.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Juan Reply with quote

Juan is just spewing the democrat talking points. You know he received them......and those talking points have been discredited repeatedly on Fox news ala Brit Hume. You won't find them discredited on any other news organization!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Me#1 You # 10 Reply with quote

EODARMY wrote:
Sorry, but I don't have a link. Britt Humme was shaking his head in disbelief at Jaun Williams!

He was not only shaking his head, he was prepared to list items, but he was not given the chance.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know why these Democratic shills are going out of their mind? They all lost their job when Gore lost the election. Instead of trying to get a real job like most people, these guys have been sitting at home for the past 4 years getting, more and more bitter. They want their easy government jobs back. They want to eat caviar and drink champagne on the taxpayers account. They are willing to forge documents, flip flop, lie and smear. They want to come home from the cold. Won't happen.

Stop Kerry. Read 4 chapters of Unfit For Command http://johnkerrythenewsoldier.blogspot.com
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you feel the desperation of the Kerry campaign and their lap-dog talking heads? (appologies to dogs across the country). They're trying to blaim Swift Vets for the CBS-Dan Rather debacle. Even if the Swifties were behind it (they're not), it is still CBS that is trying so hard to salvage the Kerry campaign that they are willing to forego real journalism in favor of quick attacks on Bush.

Why did they not do even a minimal investigation as to whether these documents were real? I'll tell you why, they desperately wanted them to be real. Now, instead of rehablitating there reputation by admitting their failed journalism and attacking the source of the documents, they're stonewalling. I'll never believe anything they report again.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juan Williams and Mad Al are twins. Razz Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is, with Brit's capable coverage of the SBVFT, why oh why does he keep Juan on his panel? Doesn't he have control over who is on? I've written him, course, I've written him on this topic before. I missed the show but will watch it this afternoon -- I want to see Juan saying these things and how the panel reacts. I suppose he's the token "leftie" on the panel -- but there must be someone else out there who can speak for the left that is not a complete and utter slanderous, lying fool. He's got to go -- he's just a walking forum for the dem talking pts (as if they don't have enough forums already).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: RE-JUAN WILLIAMS Reply with quote

I too, shook my head in disbelief at "wrong Juan." It all goes back to the "it's the message that counts" mentality of the Michael Moore crowd. All the gaping holes in that crockumentary were blown off as artistic liscense. Now the CBS "CROCKUMENTS" are being treated in the same manner by some of the MSM. Oh well, so the font is wrong, Stoudt retired well in advance, the dates for the physical are off, and the son, widow call them dubious at best, and previuosly quoted "authority" mislead and misquoted. Don't you see the questions raised by these falsified crockuments are purposely being ignored by the Republicans????? Just what in the HELL is going on here? What? We've been duped by the DNC and the Kerry campaign? Maybe if we'd actually read "Unfit for Command" by the Swift Vets(instead of just falling in lockstep and rigourously denouncing it), we'd have SEEN how JOHN FORBES KERRY, has repeatedly falsified documents for his own political gain. Folks, what the hell is going on here, is the liberal left over at CBS have been CAUGHT red-handed. Now it's time to bob and weave, so the SBVFT can be sure to be blamed for everything, apparently, the DEMS don't seem to grasp the fact that most of America tend to BELIEVE 254 vets against a paltry 11. Now it's time to muddy the waters and hope it'll all go away. Guess what Dan Rather? You're time in power has come to an end, take notice John Kerry, the same fate awaits you.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: RE-JUAN WILLIAMS Reply with quote

sayoung wrote:
I too, shook my head in disbelief at "wrong Juan." It all goes back to the "it's the message that counts" mentality of the Michael Moore crowd. All the gaping holes in that crockumentary were blown off as artistic liscense. Now the CBS "CROCKUMENTS" are being treated in the same manner by some of the MSM. Oh well, so the font is wrong, Stoudt retired well in advance, the dates for the physical are off, and the son, widow call them dubious at best, and previuosly quoted "authority" mislead and misquoted. Don't you see the questions raised by these falsified crockuments are purposely being ignored by the Republicans????? Just what in the HELL is going on here? What? We've been duped by the DNC and the Kerry campaign? Maybe if we'd actually read "Unfit for Command" by the Swift Vets(instead of just falling in lockstep and rigourously denouncing it), we'd have SEEN how JOHN FORBES KERRY, has repeatedly falsified documents for his own political gain. Folks, what the hell is going on here, is the liberal left over at CBS have been CAUGHT red-handed. Now it's time to bob and weave, so the SBVFT can be sure to be blamed for everything, apparently, the DEMS don't seem to grasp the fact that most of America tend to BELIEVE 254 vets against a paltry 11. Now it's time to muddy the waters and hope it'll all go away. Guess what Dan Rather? You're time in power has come to an end, take notice John Kerry, the same fate awaits you.


It's the Democrat montra, "It's not the nature of the evidence that's important, but the seriousness of the charge!"
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of defense for Juan Williams--

Over the years, Williams and Mara Liasson seem much less rabid than most of the NPR crowd.

There are some NPR correspondents so loony, it would be impossible to put them on a FoxNews panel and get any kind of sane discussion. There are rabid right-wingers that could have the same 'bad effect' on an interesting discussion. Anne Coulter is very funny, but wouldn't make a good regular panel member. Laughing

Another factor-- many NPR correspondents' faces are 'perfect for radio', wheras it is not visually painful to see Juan or Mara on the boob tube. Cool

Before this election cycle, there have been news panel discussions on 'issues' where Juan or Mara were even able to find points of agreement with Fred Barnes.

It does seem that Williams, and occasionally Liasson, are becoming unhinged, cheerleading rather than logical thought. But this should settle down after the election.

Back in the 2000 election cycle, Liasson offered an interesting nugget that would have been immediately discounted had it come from a conservative-- She said that Republicans have an advantage getting out the vote, because Republicans are on average better-educated than Democrats. Fred Barnes might have been fired for a statement like that!

This is a telling admission from a liberal partisan. Most liberals think conservatives are dumber than dirt.

If you throw liberals off these news panel discussions, the shows wouldn't be very entertaining. Not very entertaining to watch a bunch of folks agreeing with each other.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: Juan Williams and NPR Reply with quote

The thing that irks me about Juan, and Mara Liasson, and all the other leftwing nets at NPR is that we are paying their salaries.

How is it that NPR can be so consistently wrong, and they are funded to a great degree by the government.

They need to be cut off from the public hog trough and forced to make it or break it on their own. The libs want liberal radio. They already have it in NPR.

Do us all a favor and write your congressman and senators to defund NPR. Juan and Mara might have to go out and find a real job.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Swiftboat Vet's Blamed For Rathergate Memo's. Reply with quote

EODARMY wrote:
Jaun Williams this morning on Fox News Sunday blamed the Swiftboat Vet's for the memo fraud (Rathergate) at CBS News: "it all goes back to the Swiftboat Vet's and how rich they have become". Jaun Williams also said: "all of the Swiftboat Vet's allegations have been proven false."


Juan Williams is a partisan hack numbskull. If these people used their head they would know their charges are not true. Instead the spout the party line and don't care if they are ill-informed or proven wrong. Spin-masters.

The problem here, imo, is that the message is going to be lost because of the pathetic charges being made by the dems. Pretty soon no one is going to want to listen to the truth, and that is what the dems are counting on. So, don't argue with their stupidity. It has no legs on it's own. We need to stay on message. JMHO
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I sent an email to Brit (the show) after Juan spouted his stupidity for all the world to hear last week..... I told Brit to tell Juan to keep his mouth shut unless he knew the facts because it just told everyone that he hadn't done his homework on the subject and he looked stupid.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, Bill Krystall did a very decent job of countering Williams.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: Swiftboat Vet's Blamed For Rathergate Memo's. Reply with quote

EODARMY wrote:
Jaun Williams this morning on Fox News Sunday blamed the Swiftboat Vet's for the memo fraud (Rathergate) at CBS News: "it all goes back to the Swiftboat Vet's and how rich they have become". Jaun Williams also said: "all of the Swiftboat Vet's allegations have been proven false."


. Wealthy Swift Boat Veterans? The left is becoming increasingly incoherent.

What next? The wealthy Swift Boat Veterans purchase private jets to be able to travel at will between their various estates around the Nation and the World. I think that the left is completely baffled by the SBVT.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Me#1 You # 10 Reply with quote

EODARMY wrote:
Sorry, but I don't have a link. Britt Humme was shaking his head in disbelief at Jaun Williams!


I heard it too. I, at one time, had a degree of respect for Juan Williams. After that comment today that is no longer true.
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