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VAW11_Vet · Ensign Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 56

Here is one of the memos in question and one that was produced using MS Word. You be the judge....

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Paul R. · PO3 Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Illinois

Gotta keep this short (on break at work...)

Paul R. · PO3 Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Illinois

Poop from the memo I mean. (Not Hodges words -- they'd be the powder!)
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Skypilot · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject:

hammondb3 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 30

I would urge everyone to be careful about setting up a straw man argument about these documents. That almost happened with the superscript 'th'. To me, the most convincing argument is that the entire documents can be nearly perfectly overlaid with a modern MS Word version that is capable of proportionate spacing and perfect centering. Considering the trouble one would have to go to to get this done in 1972-73, I'll spot anyone the superscript 'th' to get them to stay in the game for the document spacing as a whole.
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greasepaint · Seaman Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 177 Location: Texas

The CBS documents seem to exhibit something
(as what can be seen on a photocopy)
called Microsoft ' 'abc' psuedo-kerning',
which, from time to time, can 'tuck' one character
under another, but is not 'true' pair-kerning.
Not possible in 1972.

Detective · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject:

to those who have PM'ed me about the General who now says CBS misled him......I say so what? HE STILL SAID IT! Just because the moron got caught lying and now must rescind his endorsement of Kerry and WHAT REALLY HAPPEND doesnt exonerate him for his stupidity.
Real Men (and women) live by their WORD!
Nuff said.
I'm not giving this azz a pass,he knew what was going on.He was a freaking General! Cant tell me that a General questioned on this topic didnt know its political implications. Come ON!!!

that is all
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All the above Officially come out in support of John Kerry for President of the USA.

BullwinkleJayMoose · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 3

Some of the memos use an address in the form of:
Houston, Texas 12345

It's odd that anyone (especially in the military where abbreviations and acronyms are a way of life) would spell out TEXAS while including the Zip Code on a letter.

In the early 1960's (at the same time as 5-digit Zip Codes were introduced) 2-character abbreviations for states also came into use. It seems ridiculous that the ZIP would be there but "Texas" would not be simply TX. The government likes things done a certain way and I'm curious if other contemporaneous docs from that source also long-handed the state but remembered the Zip Code?

BJM

azTrish · Lt.Jg. Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Arizona

CBS was just hit with the half a million fine for the Janetflap now this when they are appealing.
Issues should be seperate in courts. Does that hold relevence with the FCC's pursuit for finding fault enough to fine an organization. You have to wonder if the CBS Legal team who "Dan Forges on" failed to mention. If they were standing behind his fairytale and how they feel about all this. In light of the CBS appeal being made for its record fine over the Janet flap.

Do they think THIS is going to help their appeal of being a responsible Broadcasting Company. Not intentionally offend anyone purposely. etc etc etc I doubt it. .. Their lawyers must be gasping for air. as the noose tightens around CBS's proverbial necks.

Trish

hammondb3 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 30

Now the guy who examined the documents for CBS says that he only verified the signature and he did not examine the typography.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Toronto/Peter_Worthington/2004/09/13/627421.html

"Handwriting expert Marcel Matley, who CBS said had authenticated the four documents, told the Los Angeles Times that he only authenticated one signature."

What a bunch of deceitful liars at CBS.

I can't wait for this to come to full bloom.
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DenisC · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

OK, you and the Bloggers, along with Experts have proven the memos are forgeries, but I would really like to have the answer to this question;

"Is it a Federal Crime to attempt to influence an election by fraud?”

If so, do you suppose any Federal Agency, or the DOD is investigating this?
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Navyolsalt · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: FCC

"Is it a Federal Crime to attempt to influence an election by fraud?”

Has anyone seen any post about the possibility of filing a formal complaint with the Federal Communications Commission sine there is enough documentation that the memos are a fraud and CBS still stands by their report without an investigation? Even other news organizations are calling for an investigation.
Thanks,
Navyolsalt

Debs · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject:

Paul R.,

It was Col. Earl Lively, Director of Operations for the Texas Air National National Guard Headquarters during 1972 and 1973 who was on Fox and Friends this morning. Here is the link to the page where the video is:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95063,00.html

Debbie
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azTrish · Lt.Jg. Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Arizona

arymann · PO3 Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 269 Location: GA

No need for me to comment. This blurb says it all!

Quote:

CONSUMER ALERT: Know of a scam that needs investigating? Tell us about it! Email us at scams@cbsnews.com .

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/08/01/eveningnews/main15218.shtml