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reconflyer
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I guess it has finally dawned on me that the anti-gun lobby and the news media are willing to tell outright lies about things like the “assault weapons ban” that dies tonight.
The hysterics I have read would make the uninformed citizen think that something massive is going to change, as if tomorrow you could go out and buy a fully automatic AK-47 or a full-auto AR-15. It is as if tomorrow the streets will run with blood from the dead and dying victims of crazed machine gunners roaming the land, and bands of youthful Tec-9 pistol packers will emerge from the ether…
Don’t they know that the ban changed nothing? In 1998 I bought a Chinese made SKS-M, a “sporter” that is configured from the Norinco factory to accept AK-47 magazines. The weapon features no bayonet lug, and no pistol grip, but it fires the exact same ammunition as an AK clone (7.62x39mm) and accepts its magazines. I inquired about some magazines, and the gentlemen offered me some thirty rounders for about ten bucks a crack, “pre-ban”, he quipped. This weapon is capable of all of the havoc that any of the “pre-ban” weapons were capable of, but I am law-abiding citizen, and I was exercising my right to buy a legal consumer product in the interest of defending my home and having some fun at the range to boot. After my Florida Department of Law Enforcement check (I’m a concealed carry holder) and NICS check, I carried the rifle out of the store. As a sidebar, I have rarely fired it, but it is fun to look at. The point is this: the law did not ban anything except bayonet lugs, pistol grip stocks and high-capacity magazines, of which there seems to have been about a fifty year supply of pre-ban product. Getting high-cap mags was more difficult and more expensive for some popular handguns ($100 for a Glock factory magazine) but by no means out reach for the average gun owner.
This ban was B.S. from the get-go, I had no doubt. Good riddance. Still, I’m shocked and awed at how people will outright lie about it. And you know these people that are lying and making press releases know the legislation. They know it is B.S. They are experiencing “one step forward, three steps back” syndrome right now, and it is must be mighty frustrating that their gun ban foothold on the verge of the dirt nap.
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000
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Joined: 19 Aug 2004
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Location: Northern New Jersey
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great article on the whole thing
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/wheeler200409130630.asp
| Quote: | Assault-Weapons Ban, R.I.P.
Good riddance.
By Timothy Wheeler
The 1994 federal assault-weapons ban officially dies tonight. It was a bad job from the beginning, a fraudulent piece of legislation pushed through by hard-line gun-control advocates during the glory days of the Clinton era. To get it through Congress, its backers had to agree to a ten-year sunset provision. The law passes quietly into history at midnight.
Until the last minute, apologists for the ban have tried desperately to breathe life back into it, predicting doom if Congress failed to extend the law. A frantic Sarah Brady from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (formerly known as Handgun Control, Inc.) was quoted in the New York Times as warning "The assault weapons are coming, they're coming next week."
Perhaps the most pathetic attempt to spin the law's demise came from a list of medical organizations claiming in a September 7 press release that gun violence (public-health-speak for armed hoodlums on the job) is "an ongoing home-security problem." Nice try.
The medical groups were mostly the same players from the medical antigun advocacy of the 1990s. They all banded together under the Handgun Epidemic Lowering Plan (HELP Network), run out of Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago. The group includes the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians, and Doctors Against Handgun Injury, all groups whose official policies call for doctors to urge their patients to get rid of their guns.
So strong is the denial of the HELP network activists that they will continue to believe the world is ending, even though most Americans don't even know the law has expired. Here are a few predictions, based on the psychology of criminals and gun-control activists:
Gun crimes committed with "assault weapons" won't increase. Semiautomatic rifles never did catch on in a big way with career criminals, because they are too difficult to carry concealed. As a National Institute of Justice study noted in July, using a broad definition of the term, assault weapons were used in fewer than eight percent of gun crimes even before the ban. The firearm of choice for armed criminals has always been the high-quality handgun.
The HELP crowd and other antigunners will nevertheless maintain to the end that the ban's end will touch off a crime wave of epic proportions. The core delusion here is that all guns are evil. Gun-control advocates will therefore refuse to accept that their condemnation of "assault weapons" has no basis in fact. Even though as physicians they are trained in the scientific method, they will carry this conviction to the ends of their flat earth.
As the assault-weapon panic fades, gun-control activists will find another kind of gun to demonize. In fact, they already have. On California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's desk lies a bill to ban .50 caliber rifles, a target rifle fancied by well-to-do hobbyists. Gun controllers have ginned up a myth of .50-caliber rifles as the new weapon of choice for terrorists, just as assault weapons were supposedly preferred by criminals. In fact, there is only one reported case of a .50-caliber rifle ever having been used in a crime in the United States. Golf clubs are more frequently used as crime weapons than .50 caliber rifles.
Antigunners will deliberately continue to misrepresent "assault weapons" as machine guns. CNN did it back in May 2003, when it ran a piece on assault weapons but showed video of a machine gun. CNN was forced to issue a retraction when National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre pointed out the obvious lie.
ABC News did it again last week in a World News Tonight advocacy-news piece by Bill Redeker on the expiration of the ban. The segment quoted Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton, who warned "we'll probably have more of these weapons in the United States than there are in Iraq in the hands of insurgents." Not true. Iraqi insurgents shoot fully automatic military rifles — the real thing. American target shooters and collectors whose guns were banned by the 1994 law only want to shoot their semiautomatic rifles, one bullet with each trigger pull.
Redeker further tried to mislead viewers into thinking machine guns are legal again by showing video footage of a 1997 North Hollywood shootout. In one of the relatively few modern crimes involving machine guns, two bank robbers fired on police with fully automatic rifles, not with the guns now legal again.
Intentionally misrepresenting assault weapons as machine guns is nothing new for the gun-control lobby. But if the public mood about the issue is any indication, the lie is exposed. Congressional leaders held fast to the end, citing their constituents' desires in letting the law die its programmed death.
The experiment failed. The myth of the deadly assault weapon can now be laid to rest, a victim of its own falsity.
— Timothy Wheeler, M.D., is director of Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership, a project of the
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SandiM
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:52 am Post subject: |
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When I first read the lead post here I thought it was PARODY of a Kerry speech, and LdOL.
After I read some of the response posts I went back to read the first one again. NOT a joke - well, not meant to be.
People actually think like this, and still find their way out of bed in the morning? Then again, when I think back to the post VN 70s and some of what passed for logic in the spoutings of our left-wing pollies back then, I shouldn't be surprised.
Let him keep talking, 'average Joes' are way smarter than he gives them credit for.
Just sit back and watch him running around in ever-decreasing circles until he runs up his own backside - iNplosion!
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JCJR
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Its just another meaningless issue for pontificating politicians.
Glom a pistol grip and flash hider on a Ruger 10/22 .22 'plinker' rifle, and presto-- an evil assault weapon.
Perhaps large capacity magazines are the feature that police chiefs don't like.
Its not like the assault weapons ban ever affected availablity of high-capacity magazines. Gun parts dealers must have really stocked up on high-cap mags before the ban, because pre-ban mags have remained cheap and plentiful to this day. |
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