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Kimmymac · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject:

Son of a VET: that is a cool pic. Would make a good window decal or bumper sticker.

Well, when we sink to the level of allowing a President to say, "It depends on what the meaning of what the word is, is." Then it is only natural that we should hear that it is okay to slander and libel the current President because while there is no authentic documentation, nor any testimony that isn't blantantly politically motivated heresay, testimony DISPUTED by his family at that....well, it's all good because WE HATE BUSH AND WE WANT IT TO BE TRUE, SO THERE!

They are like really nasty, ill-behaved children, are they not?

Oh, and wrt the campign, Susan Estrich, the genius behind Michael Dukakis' campaign, says that the Kerry campaign is doing great.

Hoo-boy. Susan, would that be the Cherry or Orange Kool-Aid? I believe you have a place reserved right next to Rather on the floor, dear. DRINK UP!

azpatriot · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject:

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Speaking of which, I'm suprised how few people know that Kerry was Dukakis's LT. Governor. Its another liberal albatross that should be fed to middle America. Remember, in MA Gov's choose their LT. Gov's. In many states LT. Gov's are elected. There are great photos of young Kerry with Kennedy and young Kerry with Dukakis. Im waiting for some ad genius to create some liberal montage of Kerry's political past.

jataylor11 · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject:

Excuse me but there is a gap in logic here.

The complaint is that President Bush was given favored treatment to get into the guard. Bush entered the TANG May 1968.

According to the secretary, Killian was upset about this favored treatment even though she did not type these memos.

If Killian was upset about the favored treatment "fortunate sons" were given to get into the TANG, why is he "writing" CYA memos 4 years later in July/Aug 72 and not Jul/Aug 68.

Why did he give then LT Bush favorable evaluations in the four years prior to this time. Why is it taking 4 years to record his "upset." Why would Killian be upset in '72 when there were too many pilots, counting those returned from Vietnam by Nixon, looking for flying hours and President Bush offers to get out of Killian's hair?

Even the "evidence" contained in the forged memos does not make sense. If there was a CYA memo date 1968, then that would make sense --- but 1972 forget it.

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Rush says CBS has delayed their announcement until 3:30 p.m.

Son of a VET · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject:

1530 EST is when CBS (aka see B.S.) will make anouncement.
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The Ghost · Seaman Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 160

cbs just said that they are going to delay the anouncements until 3:30

this is what rush just said

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There is a delay in the announcement.

Seems someone got the wrong ribbon for the Selectric....
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Kimmymac · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:

I am suprised the Communist Bull S*** network doesn't wait until Ivan makes landfall.

If it is some tired crap about , "Well, technically it is false, but it is still true" I am going to put a round through my television set. It's like---how much can we take, ya know?

"Well, technically it was sex with an intern young enough to be my own daughter, in the Oval Office, on Easter Sunday, but not really, see--because I say it isn't."

It had better be an announcement that Dan Rather has resigned (and will be working full, FULL time for the Kerry campaign) along with a full and abject apology to the President, but I KNOW that ain't gonna happen.

Even I! am not that optimistic.

gleanerl · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject:

i hope this isn't a repeat, but it surely deserves to be read and remembered...
following are a couple of paragraphs from the complete article.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/morse200409150552.asp

Armybrat/Armymom · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject:

Just to let you know:

'Texans for Truth'

is an oxymoron in this case.

I should know, I live in Texas. Rolling Eyes

Brain is on vacation today. Oxymoron wrong word but I hope you get the gist of the meaning. I have run into enough Texas politicos to see that they are not into facts.

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jataylor11 · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject:

Okay -- I'll play with CBS and go with the content----

The '72 memo telling Bush that TANG had an investment in him -- (teaching him to fly) Okay so this is a please come back to us George request.

But if this investment was too great to let go then why grant the early out to attend Harvard in 73?

President Bush's service is being examine in a vacumn. In '72 there were many more pilots looking for flying hours, more experienced pilots. If this "fortunate son" was so fortunate then why wasn't he bumping these more experienced guys for flying hours?

I've heard President Bush critized because he stopped flying. Seems to me this was actually a nice thing for President Bush to do. Seems to me there were a lot of pilots, those back from Vietnam, his fellow TANG pilots all looking for flight time, most looking to gain experience in order to become commercial pilots. Seems to be that this "fortunate son" could have used "favors" to get flying hours over these guys --- and continue flying the rest of this life like these other guys. But instead he cleared the way and took his option to go to Harvard Business School -- possibly an option these other flyboys did not have. Seems to me, President Bush did someone a favor by leaving early --- not taking up space, and flight hours, greatly coveted by another pilot.