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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

Well, we've got some pros working over REAL official documents from LEGITIMATE sources that are in the works.

I have no doubt the heat will be turned up quite a bit.

By the time all is said and done, an *alledged* failure to report for an unnecessary flight physical is going to pale in comparison to wanton lying under oath, perjury before congress, entreating with the enemy in time of war, collusion, conspiracy, and aiding and abetting the enemy, not to mention treason.

Somehow I just can't seem to equate those two sets of charges.

We live in interesting times.
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Debs · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:42 am Post subject:

BB Stacker,

You are right as CBS will stonewall and try to drag this out and never confirm the memos are forgeries, hoping it will die down and nothing will happen before the election. We cannot let this happen - they must be held accountable NOW.

Debbie
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

On the one hand, we have ONE 86 year old secretary who says she remembers (has she SIGNED a sworn affidavit in front of a judge under penalty of perjury???) typing some memos about a flight physical (which was NOT due until his birthday month, some two months AFTER the alleged dates on the forged memos), but not typing the forged memos, testifying to the content which is directly contractory to other known good OFFICIAL documentation. And several document experts who have issues with the documents, however, they are dismissed and cited as "experts" who validate the documents they claim are unsupportable? And has any of THEM signed an affidavit in front of a judge under penalty of perjury?

And on the other hand, there is video, audio, OFFICIAL documentation (in some cases, two or three SETS of "official" documentation!), and the sworn affidavits of dozens of eye witnesses, which prove beyond any reasonable doubt that John Kerry is not only lied ONCE, but has a long and documented history of lying repeatedly.

Which story does CBS go with?
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

You see, this wasn't EXACTLY the way this story was supposed to play out. This story was to be Dan Rather's Swan Song. His claim to fame. His "Watergate".

This is the way it was SUPPOSED to happen:

1) Early September, release the "incriminating documents" . Seed the doubt.

2) A week passes, some "buzz" is generated in the MSM, some talking heads pour over the content of the memos on the Sunday shows.

3) The next week, dribble more "revelations", bring out the "eyewitness" testimony. Build the tension. More Sunday shows, and the Morning Shows.

4) Early October. Build more anticipation. Create new documents to support an ever-building "case" against the president. Get congressmen and senators on board.

5) Build the momentum. Set off push polls to demonstrate the people's shift of perception. Late night shows with in-depth analysis.

6) Mid October. Whip the population into a frenzy. Start rumors of impeachment proceedings. More talking heads.

7) Last week of October. One massive document dump that supports all the allegations and more.

8) Election Day. Party at DNC headquarters.

The problem is those guys in pajamas popped the bubble in ONE news cycle. The story was DEAD by Thursday afternoon, and CBS was cannon fodder on the Sunday shows. Bummer.

Well, Dan. Be careful what you wish for. You got your "Watergate".
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BB Stacker · Seaman Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Eustis Fl

BuffaloJack · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:07 am Post subject:

Hey CBS and I know you will read this, because you have an army of clones going over this board.
"A Preponderance of Evidence?" What ambulance chaser told you to say that?
I don't care how many lies, forged documents and innuendos you guys stack up, it won't stand a chance against one simple truth.
You guys lied and won't admit it.
Own up to being duped by the fabricated documents, you'll have a few days of uncomfortable embarassment, you can sacrifice a couple of scapegoats, and life will go on.
If you continue to shore up your position that the TANG documents are genuine, you will lose credibility forever.

GaryD · Seaman Recruit Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 28

Debs,
Never fear. CBS is is deep do-do and they know it. Dan RATher's ego is having a major hissy fit. He must know deep inside that he is imploding along with Kerry's campaign. I remember him crying with joy when Clinton was announced the winner in that election and his idiotic statetments that long night during the last election whey he made an ass out himself. We really should be celebrating all the help that they are giving us because of their blind hatred for GW, they haven't figured how stupid they really are. The Media and the Hollywood elite morons keep on believing that they are smarter that we are. They are so smart that they can't figure out that the joke is now on them!!!! More and more of us are not paying to see their movies, not buying their newspapers and not watching the major networks. Try e-mailing some of the ad sponsers and letting them know you will not buy their products for all of your good reasons. Believe me, they do not like to hear this.
Keep the Faith
Gary
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Michmaddave · Ensign Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 55

Deny and buy time. CBS is trying to drag this out until something else eclipses it. Then in the future they will claim it as a great victory. We can keep it front and center, and make them answer to their extremist left wing opinion support now because we now have FOX and Talk Radio as well as the internet "blogs".
Good job everyone!
We will not let them get away with it this time due to their domination of the media, their monopoly of the news. The days of the "anchorman" are OVER!
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wally626 · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:38 am Post subject:

I think Rather didn't know the memos were fake when he did the broadcast. Usually the way these things work is they have a meeting a producer gets assigned the story and when they are done they give a script to the anchor and he goes with the story. i doubt he even asked if the memos were authentic. There is clear bias in CBS selecting this story over say the Swiftboats, or what Kerry did not fulfill his reserve commitments but no actual fraud on Dan's part. After it was clear the memos were fakes is were Dan started his fraudulent activities. That, at this point in time, he can say they documents are good is really unbelievable. Lets face it CBS has confessed to fraud before, documents and setting the bombs to prove that the truck gas tanks were dangerous. (that may have been another network) so why not now? Dan could always blame the producer or burn the source. There has got to be a really good reason he is not folding.

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

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