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jataylor11 · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject:

Where would there be a focus group that came in with a truly clean opinion?

I don't know where these undecided voters are. How can anyone be undecided? Are they not paying attention? Or is it that they are uncomfortable with President Bush but still know nothing about Kerry.

Kerry certainly isn't telling anyone the truth about himself. He isn't even telling us what he plans on doing --- he says he needs to see what the country looks like in January.

How can anyone be undecided. Look at the disaster his campaign is. This is who would run the country.

Otherwise, I did like the ad, (butt monkey) but it does not stand alone from ad 4. How can all of these ads play together. It is very damaging that he says He is proud of it. The assumption is that he is proud of throwing his medals away. The fence sitters might require being eye-witnesses to Kerry's treason.

Also, I agree future ads need to get Kerry on the traitor aspects.

Iwo · Seaman Recruit Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 15

Terrific ad.

It makes one laugh at Kerry--when people start laughing at you, when you are trying to be "Presidential," the game is over.

"...proud of it..." -- this is a killer!

Suggestion: Provide the media, i.e., Hannity & "needs Combs" with tapes of the entire interviews--this will get more play time about the subject and give our friendly media outlets an answer to any questions about unfair editing.

Bravo, Swiftees.

Iwo
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USNR, 1965-1969, LT(jg)

jim_nyc · Seaman Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 198

Oh Man if you knew my wife for her to be "undecided" is a major deal. She is never going to pull the lever for Goerge Bush or any other republican for that matter but she confessed to me the other day that she simply may not vote at all.

We don't want to create an atmosphere where people go vote out of sympathy for Kerry because they don't know enough and they just feel he is being attacked with out merit. I think they call that backlash. As I posted earlier it is what got me to the polls for Bush in 2000 (DWI smear) and I believe that will ultimately be the result of the unsubstantiated Rather attacks.

Just my 2 cents.

rbshirley · Founder Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 394

Paul Woll · Lt.Jg. Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 134 Location: California

I think it is VITAL for a new AD to make the connection between Vietnam and Iraq. Emphasizing what Kerry did then and what he would do in office. His emphasis on pulling out of Iraq, like he demanded we do in Vietnam helped us lose our only war and it resulted in 3,000,000 deaths vs. his claimed 3,000 deaths. He was a 1,000 times off in his estimates. He was sugarcoating how bad the atrocities and events that would happen if we pulled out. He allowed the true "Genghis Khan's" to attack the South Vietnamese when we pulled out. Which is exactly what would happen if we pulled out now. He gave aid and comfort to the enemy as he does now in IRAQ. He met in Paris with the enemy and then pressed their agenda here in the us. How many more people need to die as a result of Kerry's actions?

Daniel J. Hutchison · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:47 pm Post subject: New Ad

Great new ad. Another donation is on the way.
thank you

jataylor11 · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject:

Paul Woll · Lt.Jg. Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 134 Location: California

To be honest, I don't think the current new ad will have much impact. Most people who are ignoring the medals issue, will ignore this ad. I don't believe it is hard-hitting enough. Can we get some more confirmation that more new ads are on the way? We need them soon.

Additionally, using Pitken would be highly effective in a new ad.

RivanG · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: Ad #5 transcript

Kerry 2004: I have been accurate precisely about what took place...
Kerry 1971: We renounced the symbols...
Kerry 2004: I threw my ribbons over...
Kerry 1971: I gave back, I can't remember... 6...
Kerry 2004: ribbons...
Kerry 1971: 7, 8...
Kerry 2004: and took the ribbons...
Kerry 1971: 9...
Kerry 2004: I didn't have my medals...
Kerry 1971: and that was the medals themselves...
Kerry 2004: That is absolutely incorrect. Medals, Ribbons... we threw away
the symbols of what are country gave us... and I am proud of that.

John Kerry, can you TRUST anything he says?

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air_vet · PO2 Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 374

My difficulty with the new ad is that I don't believe that civilians understand the diference between "medals" and "ribbons" and as a result I don't think they will understand the ad.

GiveMeFreedom · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 279 Location: Wisconsin

breezy · Ensign Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 59

thankyou soo much swiftys Wink

god bless each of your hearts and yours another wonderful add with so much power behind it !!!!!!!!!

i pray for john oneil each evening ( and all those nameless ones working soo hard in the back round to keep this group alive and going )

Yes another donation is on the way from me ( this will be my third one money given from my heart to one of the most powerful and heart felt causes I have seen in decades )

always breezy

Paul Woll · Lt.Jg. Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 134 Location: California

Look it is understandable why WE like the ad as it reaffirms what we already know. I just don't think it will affect a swing voter. It needs to be more hard-hitting. This just looks like the traditional flip-flopping that Kerry is known to do. Swing voters think Bush flip-flops(though in my opinion not as often and most are only perceived and not actual ones) so they will ignore this ad.

julsmith · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject:

If I were someone totally on the outside (I don't know how anyone could be if they have a TV and internet), but IF I were watching this ad, I would say to myself, "Huh, Kerry talks so much about his military record and patriotism, then he throws his military service awards away, and with pride. What kind of hero is that"???

The Kerry election committee keeps complaining that the Republicans are accusing Kerry of not being patriotic. After seeing this ad, I say, YES, and your point??? Question

jataylor11 · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject:

I think the "I'm proud of that" of throwing away the symbols of this country may turn on that that sneaky little voice inside of each of us.... What other "sacred" things will Kerry discard and be proud? Our flag? Our deployed soldiers? Our country?

Isn't there a big flap over being called unpatriotic? When you are proud of throwing away the "symbols" your country gives you that sounds like prima facie evidence of being unpatriotic.