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spiker77 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 4 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: Be prepared to lose ALL of your guns if John Kerry is POTUS |
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If a picture is worth a thousand words, this John Kerry photo album is worth a million!
PICTURED ABOVE: Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry embracing gun control activist Sarah Brady in Washington, DC on September 13, 2004. Kerry rebuked president George W. Bush for letting the ban on "assault weapons" expire.
PICTURED ABOVE: Gun control advocate Sarah Brady plots new gun ban strategies with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry at campaign event in Washington, DC on September 13, 2004.
PICTURED ABOVE: Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry, flanked by gun banning Senators Schumer, Feinstein and Kennedy (left to right), gives thumbs up after all four helped kill the Senate bill to protect the firearms industry from frivolous lawsuits.
PICTURED ABOVE: Sen. John Kerry at Boston anti-gun rally October 3, 2000 -- with signs that read "GUN OWNERS KILL!" and "BAN ALL GUNS".
PICTURED ABOVE: Sen. John Kerry, seen from behind, addressing anti-gun rally in Boston on October 3, 2000. |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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eXcel Seaman
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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cipher wrote: | They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. | Don't those gun hating liberals understand the reason that we are constitutionally entitled to own guns is because we don't blindly trust governemnt such as themselves.. Oh wait what am I talking about, oh course they know that, and that is the point. |
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napnip Ensign
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 63
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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eXcel wrote: | cipher wrote: | They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. | Don't those gun hating liberals understand the reason that we are constitutionally entitled to own guns is because we don't blindly trust governemnt such as themselves.. Oh wait what am I talking about, oh course they know that, and that is the point. |
Don't make the mistake of thinking liberals hate guns. On the contrary, liberals absolutely love guns.
If it weren't for the threat of physical force (i.e. guns), liberals wouldn't be able to redistribute your wealth into social programs of which you may not approve.
If it weren't for the threat of physical force (i.e. guns), liberals wouldn't be able to regulate and tax business into the ground.
If it weren't for the threat of physical force (i.e. guns), liberals wouldn't be able to curb the rights or private property owners regarding what they do with their legally purchased land. (You know, like declaring it a "wetland" or protecting some insignificant spotted owl, thus preventing you from building or developing your own land.)
No, the Left doesn't hate guns. The gun has consistently been the Left's best friend. Just ask all those millions of people murdered by the now defunct Soviet Union. Just ask all the people tortured and killed by those communist bastards in North Vietnam. Just ask our brave POWs who endured torture at the hands of armed communists , and who came back to America only to be spat on and called criminals by socialist garbage like John Kerry.
Oh no, leftists don't hate guns. They love the fact that governments armed with guns and other various weapons can confiscate your wealth and redistribute it at the point of a gun. What they hate is law-abiding citizens arming themselves.
They aren't opposed to guns in principle. They are opposed to you , the private citizen, owning guns. _________________ "[John Galt] raised his hand and over the desolate earth he traced in space the sign of the dollar." - Atlas Shrugged |
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eXcel Seaman
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:09 am Post subject: |
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napnip wrote: | Don't make the mistake of thinking liberals hate guns. On the contrary, liberals absolutely love guns. | Thanks for clarifying, I should have said "private gun owner hating liberals" =) |
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azpatriot Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:04 am Post subject: |
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I'll gladly give them all of my bullets first and a few arrows just to be a p**ck _________________ Proud to be an American! and member of the PAJAMAHADEEN
FedEx Kinko's: When it absolutely, positively has to be forged overnight |
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silenthunter Ensign
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 70 Location: small town, big hills, Colorado's great divide
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Those bourgeois dilettante weasels just don't get it. Never have, never will. They actually believe that Thomas Jefferson and the other founders really didn't mean what their writings make it look like they meant when they wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That was so long ago, you see, and we have become so much more educated since then, civilized, and we, the bourgeoisie of the Senate, can be so much more helpful in assisting you of the lesser classes if we only first disarm you.
Of course the founders didn't intend for the unwashed to have the right to bear arms, you understand. That was reserved for a well-regulated militia. Our Senatorial weasel class never has understood that the "militia" is the "unwashed." Datta be you 'n me.
Go to www.fightthebias.com/quotes/thomas_jefferson.htm and, like the dirty little commoner you are, see what Tom Jefferson had to say about gun ownership. My signature quotes my favorite if Jefferson's opinions on the mandatory nature of the Armed Citizen when he said, "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away."
In other words, as stated by Thomas Jefferson, when someone tries to disarm us we are mandated by the Constitution to blow them the hell away.
Bring it on. _________________ R.E. Gleason, YN2
Navy '67-'71
Staff, Rear Admiral James D. Ramage,
COMCARDIV7, '70-'71
USS Oriskany, CVA34, '69-'71
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Bumper stickers:
Politicians prefer unarmed peasants!
When Leftists outlaw guns - only Leftists will have guns!
AK-47 Owners for Kerry
I actually voted to ban assult rifles - before I went out and bought one!
Got Ammo?
Second Amendment - Yes, I think I saw that part in my divorce papers.
French Hookers for the French Looker. _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:15 am Post subject: |
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silenthunter wrote: | Go to www.fightthebias.com/quotes/thomas_jefferson.htm and, like the dirty little commoner you are, see what Tom Jefferson had to say about gun ownership. My signature quotes my favorite if Jefferson's opinions on the mandatory nature of the Armed Citizen when he said, "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away."
In other words, as stated by Thomas Jefferson, when someone tries to disarm us we are mandated by the Constitution to blow them the hell away. |
Time to add a new Jefferson quote to my footer! _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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sniper Seaman Recruit
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:30 am Post subject: |
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azpatriot wrote: | I'll gladly give them all of my bullets first and a few arrows just to be a p**ck |
As I am too!
Time to get another 10 K or so of .308.......... |
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Detective Seaman
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 151 Location: On the water in Newport Beach, Calif USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Liberals are socialists. John Kerry is a liberal socialist,and makes no bones about it.He is proud of it and screams it out everyday.
Another socialist had something to say about gun control too, just Like Kerry.This guy is known as the worlds most evil person in our century.He is Hitler. here's what hitler said:
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer,our police more efficient,and the world will follow our lead into the future" -Adolf Hitler 1935
http://www.reason.com/0211/fe.jm.gun.shtml _________________ U.S. CODE, Hostile Nations Act TITLE 50 CHAPTER 40 Sec. 2301. Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, Syria.(All of them support Terrorism)
All the above Officially come out in support of John Kerry for President of the USA. |
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a6502 Ensign
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:22 am Post subject: |
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The Hitler quote is visibly posted in my brother's office. Lots of traffic in and out of VERY liberal people (tree hugger types). Most of whom have now changed their position on private firearms ownership through continued exposure to the 'truth'.
September 11th helped people understand that there ARE evil people that want to kill us because of who we are, and what we represent.
The second amendment is something that many people have died to protect. It stands to reason that many others would also kill to protect it. It is not a matter of just 'prying the gun' from my hands. You can assume that I will offer some resistance, and given a moments notice - more than 'some' (read this as large quantities of aimed fire raining down on you and your compadres for as long as my fingers are not cold and dead). You will also have to kill not only me, but my brothers, my mother, all of my nephews, my cousins, my aunts and uncles, my friends, my neighbors, and each of those that I have helped learn to shoot (accurately, I might add!). You will also be up against people that I don't even know, for that is the nature of 'God Given Rights'. People take them seriously.
It is why the 'bad guys' don't want to go head to head with us. We will kick their butts (I mean, really, really kick their butts). It is why Russia never thought of invading, and it is what kept the Japanese from attempting any occupation of American soil during WWII (protectorates do not enjoy the freedoms of the second amendment).
An armed citizenry is the most effective method of keeping the peace and discouraging 'rude behavior'. I would feel far more comfortable in a plane where ALL the passengers were armed (within reason of course) than flying in a plane where some Phillipino third grade dropout assures me that NOBODY is armed, because that has not worked out so well, so far.
People need to be reminded that the 'gun crimes' are commited by f'n CRIMINALS. Bottom line. Responsible gun owners (the VAST MAJORITY of us) would never think of abusing our right to own firearms. We resent people assuming that we are 'screwy', or 'extreme' for choosing to own (for whatever reason) weapons, and wanting to regulate or prohibit this ownership.
This is the same psycho-mindset that wants SUV's outlawed. You REALLY want to save some lives? Outlaw spreading AIDS - make it a criminal offense for HIV+ folks to have sex. (Now I am some kind of loony for even suggesting THAT - although it WOULD actually save more lives than any other single act.) I could go on and on - I like to study history.
Most of the 'anti-gun' types have probably not thought it all the way through:
I saw an excellent story that highlights the major problem with attempting to 'disarm' America. Basically, it boils down to the fact that if a gun owner does not want to be disarmed, you ain't gonna do it without a gun. And nobody REALLY wants to be the one to ACTUALLY knock on the door and inform Mr. Joe Armed Citizen that it is time to give up his gun. The 'anti-gun' folks don't have the stones, and it is not a job that you can just advertise for; (Wanted: Cannon Fodder, minimum wage - no medical).
People (socialists) also want to think that the second amendment was not meant to allow mere citizens enough firepower to actually be effective (i.e. 'Go up against the government with any chance of winning.'). BS!! That is EXACTLY what the people that wrote it meant. That is WHAT HAD JUST HAPPENED. THANK GOD!
The second amendment is what gives all of the others 'teeth' - so, teach a kid to shoot. Teach them to shoot safely, and teach them to shoot accurately. Make them proud of their skill, and most importantly, get them on 'our' side. Better yet, teach two - or two hundred. Because in the end you could be faced with the choice of being either a marksman, or a target. And that folks, is not a choice.
But like my wife keeps reminding me - 'They were all born yesterday.'
Want Bumper Stickers?
(Some of my own ideas)
Ammo - Currency of the New Millenium.
Guns - Keeping Americans Free For More Than 200 Years.
Gunpowder - The Kool-Aide Antidote.
And I Love the 'Polite Society' quote. TJ was the MAN! |
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directorblue Lt.Jg.
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 121
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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cipher wrote: | They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. |
I think you meant to pluralize...
"...my guns when they pry them..."
_________________ http://directorblue.blogspot.com - click for various missives on the folly of John Kerry's candidacy. |
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Rich Ensign
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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I know this is not news to most here. But if there are any anti-gun people here I want them to get a little news flash from a 20+ year street cop.
"We" cannot protect you! Do we try? Of course! But if you actually knew the lag time between a call to 911, sending the info to the dispatchers computer screen, the dispatcher sending the call out to a squad, the squad getting over there............? Even in a condensed city it can be a lag of over 5 mins. Now imagine if your living out in the country or a more rural area then a city? This is of course assuming you can even get to a phone,and, assuming your still alive.
Ive been in street battles, called for help on the radio "which brings an instant response" and it still can take 3 mins for other cars to make it to me. And 3 mins is an eternity when someone is shooting at you,raping you,beating you,robbing you,burglarizing you...ect I couldnt even begin to count the number of terrorized victims Ive only been able to take a report from because we got there to late, and/or, because they didnt take their own steps to protect themselves.
Also, tho we try our best, its actually fairly un-usual for us to get to a scene in time to save a victim and catch an offender actually doing the crime. I know, I know, "it cant really happen to me". You want to know how many victims Ive had that repeatedly moaned another version of that ,"I cant believe it happened to me"? To many to count!
So when you see these anti-gun politicians, and their police chief drones, standing around tables of guns and telling you how much safer you are. Just remember what Im saying here and dont assume they are doing anything for you. THEIR interest is in their own careers and they will play all the politics they have to to further themselves. No Politician is stupid enough to think your going to vote for him/her if they told you aint going to be safe with them in office. Almost all gun crimes are commited by prior felons anyway, for whom its already another felony to possess a firearm, so exactly what is the point of restricting a law abiding American?
The Sarah Bradys and the Liberal Elite would call me a "fear monger", but it hasnt been "their" eyes that have seen the thousands of helpless victims night in and night out. People who would have been safe if they were allowed their 2'nd amendment rights, took responsability for their own safety, and trained to survive. Sarah has her own agenda and if her husband had never been shot by that lunatic she'd care less about any of this.
And John Kerry? One minute hes waving a shotgun around a bunch of hunters, and the next he's whispering sweet nothings with Sarah ,while courting the liberal elite for their permission to play God for four years. Which John Kerry do you think is real? Does even he know?
But whatever you think, and whomever you vote for. Dont ever think that anyone is going to protect you. Thats your own responsability! And Sarah Brady aint the one on the business end of that police radio, and she aint the one whos going to be driving 90mph to get to you. I am!
So who do you believe?.........................Rich _________________ "Freedom" is never "free" |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | They can have my gun when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. |
No. Just the one. An M40A3. I'm a firm believer in long distance....
"Don't bother running, you'll only die tired." _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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