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blackwatch Ensign
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 74 Location: NH
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject: Clenched fist? |
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After watching the programme on MNSBC yesterday on Kerry and this morning watching him giving a speech in Boston I was drawn to the fact that he still gives that clenched fist type of salute that he gave back during his Vietnam days. Perhaps someone could elaborate on what this stood for . |
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neverforget Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Commie salute. _________________ US Army Security Agency
1965-1971 |
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Becky Seaman
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: Closed Fist Salute |
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Old habits die hard for Kerry. A raised, clenched fist was and is
used as a gesture of defiance by a number of groups (and old
friends of Kerrys). It is usually considered to be hostile and
is used by communists and other nationalist or ethnic
revolutionary or would-be revolutionary movements, and
with the Black Power movements of the 1960s here in the US.
Kerry's going back to his old ways - he and his friends (i.e. Fonda)
used the closed fist salute; Black Panthers (funded by Fonda)
used it as a slogan to describe the aspiration of many Africans
(whether they be in Africa or abroad) to national self-determination
- the idea that African people should have their own government
and not be subjects of any alien government or imperialist power.
The term "alien government" refers to a government populated by
non-Africans and with institutions that build on non-African traditions;
Communism, or communist society, is the name of the social
formation, which, according to Marx, would be a classless society
in which all property is owned by the community as a whole, and
where all people enjoy equal social and economic status.
Communism in its original meaning is a social theory and political
movement for the direct and communal control of society towards
the common benefits of all members (politics sound familiar?). |
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4moreyears Former Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Power to the people, revolution and all that other anti-American sentiment. _________________ kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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Chuck54 PO1
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 466
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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On Earthlink, its the symbol for the popup blocker.
All these clench fisters need to get a life, especially the rich elitist ones like Kerry and Fonda. Who in the hell do they think they are anyway....the proletariat? What dorks!!!!!!! _________________ "And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often, than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry"
Zell Miller |
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Cali-HeyGirl Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 156 Location: Mayport
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yep...watchin' Kerry with that fist raised makes it feels like we are watching the peace freaks from the 60's and 70's or to put it another way...the walking dead! That raised fist is totally lame
However, it truly shows the mind set of Kerry types! _________________ Cali-HeyGirl....proud to be a CWO5 Navy wife! |
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Tacan70UDN PO2
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, "the walking dead". That fits perfectly with "Lurch"! |
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Cali-HeyGirl Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 156 Location: Mayport
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Tacan70UDN wrote: | Hey, "the walking dead". That fits perfectly with "Lurch"! |
Hey, Thanx....OOH-YAH! _________________ Cali-HeyGirl....proud to be a CWO5 Navy wife! |
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JimRobson Lieutenant
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 242 Location: Jacksonville FL
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Golly gee whiz, don't you know what the clenched fist means???
_________________ ETN2 PTF2 (Littlecreek Underwater Demolition Unit 2 1963)
http://www.thewebplace.com/ |
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Tom Poole Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 914 Location: America
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Chuck54 wrote: | ...Who in the hell do they think they are anyway....the proletariat?... |
Only for now. Actually, IMO, they're like the pigs who rally the other animals against the farmer. And you know what happened to the pigs after the farmer was gone. Kerry seems to have a habit of moving into the big house. _________________ '58 Airedale HMR(L)-261 VMO-2 |
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Cali-HeyGirl Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 156 Location: Mayport
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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JimRobson wrote: | Golly gee whiz, don't you know what the clenched fist means???
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Yipee...thanx so much.
This is on its way to the Persian Gulf and one Big Kick Ass Carrier that my husband is on...OOH-YAH! _________________ Cali-HeyGirl....proud to be a CWO5 Navy wife! |
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JimRobson Lieutenant
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 242 Location: Jacksonville FL
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Here's another one: Angela Davis, Black panther Party, and some other revlutionary.
_________________ ETN2 PTF2 (Littlecreek Underwater Demolition Unit 2 1963)
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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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As noted on another thread, the clenched "black power" salute is obnoxious coming from Kerry, as is the Eastern mystic bow to the crowd. What a freakin' dork! _________________ MJB
USAF '85-'92 |
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Nomorelies Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:12 am Post subject: |
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That's actually scary. I nevr noticed before but I believe you are right. He may be "nuanced" but the fist is pretty obvious. _________________ Nomorelies Make a donation HERE |
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lrb111 Captain
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: |
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The fist doesn't bother me, but the "praying hands" thing he does. As if he is in the presence of Uncle Ho, really grates. _________________ said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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