 |
SwiftVets.com
Service to Country
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
wvobiwan
Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 79
Location: Harpers Ferry, WV
|
 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:15 am Post subject: UN + Kerry = Funded and Enabled Terrorists |
 |
|
I just saw Fox's Breaking Point story about the UN Oil for Food Scandal.
I've never been so simultaneously horrified, disgusted, and ANGRY in my life. As many suspected, Oil for Food money made our 'friends' the French and Russians, along with the Chinese, rich arming Saddam. But what's worse, Oil For Food money also likely funded 9/11, and even more likely is funding Iraqi insurgents and terrorists right now in Iraq. This UN blood money is killing our boys. Americans will not forget this betrayal, and a special place in hell is waiting for those responsible. We will find them, all of them.
And of course, Kerry would have us bow and scrape for the UN, and repair our relations with France and China. Watch for the Kerry/DNC spin that somehow America's at fault for not stopping it.
UN, France, and Russia is what Kerry thinks is 'better policy' for our security. Defeat this man in November.
_________________
Doug
"Proud of my Dad, 2-tour veteran of VN."
Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GiveMeFreedom
PO3
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 279
Location: Wisconsin
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm happy to hear that there were other people that watched that tonight. I am infuriated - esp. after watching "War Stories" right before it. There is something going on....with this news starting to leak out.
I can't believe Kerry is stating that he will get the U.N. and the other nations to the table if he gets elected. Esp. knowing this crap. It seemed to me that all of this happened under Clinton's watch (couldn't believe the 'Mark Rich' connection). I look for a connection to Clinton to come next. 
Wonder how Clinton's heart is doing after seeing that tonight  ?
What a bunch of thugs. On Kerry's own website, he talks about sharing "power and authority" with the U.N. & Nato, with our troops. .. although he says in his speeches he won't turn over control of them, I deeply suspect he is hiding his 'true agenda' on this issue.
_________________
-------------------
GiveMeFreedom
http://www.anysoldier.com
http://www.operationac.com
Support our Soldiers!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SooZQ
PO2
Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 369
Location: Central Kentucky
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
Now that's what I call true investigative reporting!
Hope everyone will email fox to thank them.
The subterfuge is just overwhelming! The U.N. needs
to be dismantled. How does Kofi Ahnan have the gall to
announce that we have engaged in an "illegal war",
while heading a gutless and duplicitous organization!
Not only is it a snake pit, of self seeking thieves and
scoundrels, it is completely ineffectual in standing against
even the most blatant of atrocities on the planet!! The
U.N. would not even call the calculated disposal of thousands
of Sudanese farmers and their families by the Muslim
Jonjuweed (sp?) forces...genocide. Despicable!!
I better stop before I break something.
AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
_________________
Really support the troops, send them a letter and care package! Visit:http://www.anysoldier.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wvobiwan
Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 79
Location: Harpers Ferry, WV
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
Bump.
I agree, dismantle and start over. At the very least, get them the heck out of NYC before those New Yorkers find them...:>)
_________________
Doug
"Proud of my Dad, 2-tour veteran of VN."
Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ohanakat
Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 80
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
We watched both shows, too. Loved the indirect digs against JFK2 that Ollie got in... especially the purple hearts and how they were all staying...
that was priceless! Such a contrast.
I kept thinking during Oil for Food that Abu Graib got how many weeks of front page coverage and this story has been buried? Shame, shame on the media yet again. I hope Fox has some good discussions and flashbacks during the week about the show so it stays in focus.
Preaching to the choir, I'm sure, but these two shows just reinforce why JFK2 cannot be elected. Probably could never prove a direct association, but I think we can assume he's there in spirit with the French and the Russians!
Interesting that on one channel there were celebritions ridiculing American veterans and getting laughs and on another channel there was cold, hard evidence of how wrong, wrong, wrong they are and what it costs, every day.
Kat |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sun Tzu
Seaman
Joined: 20 Aug 2004
Posts: 169
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
"I’m an internationalist. I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations." John Kerry, The Harvard Crimson, 1970.
_________________
"Courage is not the lack of fear. It is acting in spite of it." - Mark Twain |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Stevie
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Posts: 1451
Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| GiveMeFreedom wrote: | I can't believe Kerry is stating that he will get the U.N. and the other nations to the table if he gets elected. Esp. knowing this crap. It seemed to me that all of this happened under Clinton's watch (couldn't believe the 'Mark Rich' connection). I look for a connection to Clinton to come next.
Wonder how Clinton's heart is doing after seeing that tonight ?
What a bunch of thugs. On Kerry's own website, he talks about sharing "power and authority" with the U.N. & Nato, with our troops. .. although he says in his speeches he won't turn over control of them, I deeply suspect he is hiding his 'true agenda' on this issue. |
well, I truely believe he IS hiding his real agenda ! where is that on his website? you should copy it over to here so we can copy it out and email to friends and relatives etc.
as for Rich... that's the guy Clinton pardoned.... I'm sure clinton got taken care of for that.... if ya know what I mean....
_________________
Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wvobiwan
Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 79
Location: Harpers Ferry, WV
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
There's so much evidence of French perfidy surrounding the Iraq mess I can't imagine how anyone could doubt it anymore, Fox just sealed the deal with their report.
By the time the UN is ready to act with force in the Sudan, no one will be left alive to rescue. This is Kerry's organization of choice for world peace and protection...the folks that abandoned Iraqis and Afghans and who are now set to abandon the Sudanese.
If there are any RNC trollers in here, please take note and ask Kerry in the media to explain why the UN has any remaining relevancy in today's world and why he (Kerry) thinks they should have any influence on US policy.
_________________
Doug
"Proud of my Dad, 2-tour veteran of VN."
Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BC
PO3
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
Posts: 288
Location: Oklahoma City
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | Probably could never prove a direct association, but I think we can assume he's there in spirit with the French and the Russians! |
If Clinton can be linked, than you can link kerry with the FBI files showing kerry and clinton getting Chinese laundered money.
_________________
Remember United Flight 93, "Are you guys ready? Let's roll."
Duty Honor Country |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
eXcel
Seaman
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 174
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I am really starting to believe that all of this countrys problems can be traced back to the main stream media not covering or over blowing things to fit their adgenda. Thank God for Fox, I wish they were a broadcast network. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wvobiwan
Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 79
Location: Harpers Ferry, WV
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
| eXcel wrote: | | I am really starting to believe that all of this countrys problems can be traced back to the main stream media not covering or over blowing things to fit their adgenda. Thank God for Fox, I wish they were a broadcast network. |
Bump. I've been thinking along those lines as well, we've had our country influenced by folks that were never elected, that are overwhelmingly liberal/socialist, and who never fail to take sides against the best interests of the American people.
In my blog at sanityanyone.blogspot.com I suggest that I would not be surprised to find that all these folks in academia and the media who more and more seem to support a weak America are doing so because they were assigned to do so. It would be very interesting to look for the remnants of an old KGB cold-war plot in our universities, they did it in England back in the 30s (which ultimately produced Kim Philby and a bunch of other English traitors). Why should we assume they didn't also do it here in America?
_________________
Doug
"Proud of my Dad, 2-tour veteran of VN."
Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sun Tzu
Seaman
Joined: 20 Aug 2004
Posts: 169
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
| BC wrote: | | Quote: | | Probably could never prove a direct association, but I think we can assume he's there in spirit with the French and the Russians! |
If Clinton can be linked, than you can link kerry with the FBI files showing kerry and clinton getting Chinese laundered money. |
Speaking of which...a good article.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4121890/
Cash and Kerry
The gift: He rails against big donors, but he knows the drill. Just ask Johnny Chung
Feb. 9 , 2004 issue - John Kerry needed cash, and soon. In July 1996 the Massachusetts senator was locked in a tough re-election fight, so he was more than happy to help when he heard that a generous potential contributor wanted to visit his Capitol Hill office. The donor was Johnny Chung, a glad-handing Taiwanese-American entrepreneur. Chung brought along some friends, including a Hong Kong businesswoman named Liu Chaoying.
Told that Liu was interested in getting one of her companies listed on the U.S. Stock Exchange, Kerry's aides immediately faxed over a letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The next day, Liu and Chung were ushered into a private briefing with a senior SEC official. Within weeks, Chung returned the favor: On Sept. 9 he threw Kerry a fund-raiser at a Beverly Hills hotel, raking in $10,000 for the senator's re-election campaign.
In a 30-year career untainted by scandal, Kerry's encounter with Chung and Liu would turn into a political embarrassment. Federal investigators later discovered that Liu was in fact a lieutenant colonel in China's People's Liberation Army and vice president of a Chinese-government-owned aerospace firm. And Chung, who visited the Clinton White House 49 times, went on to become a central figure in the foreign-money scandals of 1996. Chung eventually pleaded guilty to funneling $28,000 in illegal contributions to the campaigns of Bill Clinton and Kerry. According to bank records and Chung's congressional testimony, the contributions came out of $300,000 in overseas wire transfers sent on orders from the chief of Chinese military intelligence—and routed through a Hong Kong bank account controlled by Liu.
There was never any suggestion that Kerry knew about the dubious origins of Chung's largesse. Still, the appearance that the senator had played a cynical cash-for-favors game forced him to play damage control. In January 1998 he told the Boston Herald that the timing of the SEC meeting and the subsequent fund-raiser was "totally coincidental" and "entirely staff driven." He said the Beverly Hills event had been set up by a professional fund-raiser, and that he had never even met Chung until the night of the event. But congressional documents obtained by NEWSWEEK seem to tell a different story. "Dear Johnny, It was a great pleasure to have met you last week," Kerry told Chung in a handwritten note dated July 31, 1996. "Barbara [a Kerry fund-raiser] told me of your willingness to help me with my campaign... It means a lot to have someone like you on my team as I face the toughest race of my career." That same day the Kerry fund-raiser faxed a memo to Chung that read, in part: "The following are two ways in which you can be helpful to John." No. 1 was "Host an event in L.A. on Saturday, Sept. 9th." (A Kerry spokesman acknowledged that the senator may have met with Chung prior to the fund-raiser, but not in his Senate office.) [Note: Flip-flop!]
On the campaign trail, Kerry routinely attacks the president for his ties to big-dollar donors. Kerry championed campaign-finance reform, and refused money from corporate or labor political-action committees. But in some ways, he has played the Washington money game as aggressively as the Republicans he scolds. Over the years, reports the nonpartisan Center for Public Integrity, Kerry has raised more than $30 million for his Senate campaigns. A good portion has come from industries with an interest in the committees on which Kerry has a seat—including more than $3 million from financial firms (Kerry serves on the Senate Finance Committee). Kerry insists he is meticulous about avoiding any conflicts. "If these interests are giving money in hopes of buying influence with the senator, well, they should save their money because it won't work," says Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter.
Though he has shunned PAC donations, which are limited to $5,000 apiece, the senator in 2001 formed a fund-raising group called the Citizen Soldier Fund, which brought in more than $1.2 million in unregulated "soft money." Kerry pledged he would limit individual donations to $10,000. But in late 2002, just before new federal laws banning soft money took effect, Kerry quietly lifted the ceiling and took all the cash he could get. In the month before the election, the fund raised nearly $879,000—including $27,500 from wireless telecom firms such as T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon. That same month, Kerry cosponsored a bill to overturn a judge's ruling and permit the wireless firms to bid on billions of dollars' worth of wireless airwaves. Kerry aide Cutter says it's a "stretch" to draw any connection between the two events.
Why did Kerry abandon his own rules about contribution limits? "This was just before the election, and it was clear the Democrats needed all their resources to fight the Bush money machine," Cutter says. Kerry spread the windfall strategically. More than a third of the fund's contributions went to just three states critical to a senator plotting a run for the White House: Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
Today that certainly seems like money well spent. Now, after a tough, expensive fight to the front, Kerry once again finds himself scrambling to find new sources of cash. He has personally urged more than a dozen top supporters to raise $100,000 each before the Feb. 3 primaries. As the money rolls in, he'll likely be taking a hard look not just at the numbers on the checks—but at the signatures, too.
With Holly Bailey
© 2004 Newsweek, Inc.
_________________
"Courage is not the lack of fear. It is acting in spite of it." - Mark Twain |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GiveMeFreedom
PO3
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 279
Location: Wisconsin
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Stevie wrote: | | GiveMeFreedom wrote: |
What a bunch of thugs. On Kerry's own website, he talks about sharing "power and authority" with the U.N. & Nato, with our troops. .. although he says in his speeches he won't turn over control of them, I deeply suspect he is hiding his 'true agenda' on this issue. |
well, I truely believe he IS hiding his real agenda ! where is that on his website? you should copy it over to here so we can copy it out and email to friends and relatives etc.
as for Rich... that's the guy Clinton pardoned.... I'm sure clinton got taken care of for that.... if ya know what I mean.... |
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0430.html
>>First he says this:<<
"The coalition should endorse the Brahimi plan for an interim Iraqi government, it should propose an international High Commissioner to work with the Iraqi authorities on the political transition, and it should organize an expanded international security force, preferably with NATO, but clearly under US command."
>>Then he puts this in<<
"To bring others in it is imperative we share responsibility and authority-(emphasis mine). When NATO members have been treated with respect, they have always – always – answered the call of duty. So too with other key contributors. Every one has a huge stake in whether Iraq survives its trial by fire or is consumed by fire and becomes a breeding ground for terror, intolerance and fear."
_________________
-------------------
GiveMeFreedom
http://www.anysoldier.com
http://www.operationac.com
Support our Soldiers!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hammer2
PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004
Posts: 387
Location: Texas
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think that since the largest portion of UN funding comes form the United States, along with the bulk of the military forces the UN has, then the United States should withold any further funding for the UN until a full accounting of this is done.
The UN is incapable of investigating itself as too many people are on the gravy train there. Unless their main source of money is cut off, they will do nothing substantial. The United States should insist on an independent investigation from outside the UN.
_________________
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SooZQ
PO2
Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 369
Location: Central Kentucky
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for the excellent article Sun Tzu!
_________________
Really support the troops, send them a letter and care package! Visit:http://www.anysoldier.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
