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Ogre
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 Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject: Excellent email |
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Got this this morning and forwarded it to many folks. Anything that gets it out there is a good thing.
| Quote: | Subject: Kerry Granted Honorable Discharge 30 years after his service
term.
Now this is curious. He got his honorable discharge from Bill (then
president) Clinton. Makes you want to say. Hummmmm!
Kerry Granted Honorable Discharge 30 Years after His Service Term.
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore,,,,Kerry has adamantly refused to
authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because
of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not
granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after
his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the
ordinary, and highly suspect.
There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than
Honorable,
Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the
'70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was
doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied,
and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.
His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings
on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy,
along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor
under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th.
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract
with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate
contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves,
and 1
year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3
years
and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills
per year,
and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was
also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally,
Kerry,
as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements
against his chain of command or statements against his country,
especially
during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not
obtain an honorable discharge until Mar.12, 2001 even though his service
obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov.1969 asking for an early release
from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of
obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval
Reserve
Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland. Where are Kerry's Performance
Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year
required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry
was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval
Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt.John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -
Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval
Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready
Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against
the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was
displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby
giving
aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on
assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the
US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national
television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris,
in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S.
Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of
Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970
meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the
UCMJ's Article
104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's
subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests
against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct
violation
of our Constitution! 's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as
"giving
aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No
person
shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of
President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath to
support the
Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or
rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies
thereof."
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication
Team -Director AuthentiSEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where
all
investigators are US Navy SEALs" http://www.authentiseal.org/
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USAFBratToo
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There's a lot of great stuff in that post, which has been on these discussion forums for a number of weeks, but this item "Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar.12, 2001 even though his service
obligation should have ended July 1, 1972." was debunked in several earlier discussions of the discharge issue - a Swift researched it and found that there is some "page 2" in his 70s discharge papers that says "Honrable." Maybe if you search for a bunch of relevant keywords you'll come up with that debunking post, or get back to Steve Nash and ask him for more research - it's important, because if we throw out a lot of flack about the discharge and the facts refute us, we will be giving the MSM even more reason to call us fools and wackos. |
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subsailor 2
Seaman Recruit
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Posts: 20
Location: San Diego
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| DD-214's are used to cover transfers in status and discharges (e.g., release from active duty after extended training, after completion of obligated service, upon retirement, etc.). There are only two DD214's on Kerry's site. I would expect to see two more. The first should cover the transfer from the ready reserve to the standby reserve and the second should cover the period of time in the standby reserve to discharge. It is clear to me that he skated on his two years of ready reserve. If you read his documents he was discharged as a result of a SECNAV board action. |
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air_vet
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Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| subsailor 2 wrote: | | DD-214's are used to cover transfers in status and discharges (e.g., release from active duty after extended training, after completion of obligated service, upon retirement, etc.). There are only two DD214's on Kerry's site. I would expect to see two more. The first should cover the transfer from the ready reserve to the standby reserve and the second should cover the period of time in the standby reserve to discharge. It is clear to me that he skated on his two years of ready reserve. If you read his documents he was discharged as a result of a SECNAV board action. |
Negative - a Reserve officer like Kerry would only get TWO DD214s - one when he completed OCS (his "enlisted" tour ended) and one when he left Extended Active Duty (EAD).
DD214s would NOT have used for the other personnel actions.
They are just for completions of ACTIVE tours of duty. |
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subsailor 2
Seaman Recruit
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Posts: 20
Location: San Diego
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I'm going to agree with you.
Your comment made me go back and look at the 5 DD214's that I have. About 1972 it changed to be a form that indicated "release or separation from active duty" rather than the "change or transfer" of the earlier forms.
Anyhow checking back in Kerry's documents the point is moot. He received an honorable discharge 2/18/72 as a result of the board action. |
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