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NavyChief · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: Kerry Silver Star

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m_drummond · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas TX

To make this definitive, how many inputs were required other than Kerry's? Are SSs awarded for action over multiple days?

I'm still enamored with the SOP uncovered Mon which fits perfectly with the SwiftVets account of the SS action.

NavyChief · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject:

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BB Stacker · Seaman Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Eustis Fl

It seems to me that it still doesn't answer the question of where Adm Zumwalt got his information? It also speaks about events in general but I see no details of anyones specific heroic acts. Have I missed something?

ARW3A · Seaman Recruit Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 18

Zumwalt says that 23 and 43 moved up river first and then came 94? But, the SS citation he signed clearly states that 23 and 94 went up river first and then they called for 43.

NavyChief · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:06 am Post subject:

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jalexson · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:10 am Post subject:

This account also conflicts with the one provided by Doug Reese earlier. He claimed that Kerry's RF/PF's were still on board his boat at the time.

There's also still no indication of any action that would justify a silver star.
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NavyChief · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:37 am Post subject:

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Stevie · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:32 am Post subject:

[quote="jalexson"]This account also conflicts with the one provided by Doug Reese earlier. He claimed that Kerry's RF/PF's were still on board his boat at the time.

There's also still no indication of any action that would justify a silver star.[/quote

sorry, I'm non military.... what's the rf/pf stand for? ]

oh woe... madonna is in Israel.... calling for world peace....
well, that should do it! All wars are over now!
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NavyChief · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:45 am Post subject:

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Misty · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 223

I seem to remember that one boat was damaged on the 27th (the 23?) and was delayed in joining the group the next morning (28th).
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Stevie · Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:20 am Post subject:

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jalexson · Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:45 am Post subject:

Those who looking at archival material should watch for any documents that deal with the issue of medals in general, particularly documents from Zumwalt urging commanders to recommend men for medals whenever possible.

Also watch for mention of Kerry's political plans by superior officers particularly Zumwalt. He might have been interested in helping Kerry get medals the way Gen. MacArthur helped a young Texas congressman named Lyndon Johnson get a silver star early in WWII.
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