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bergstrom79
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 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:49 am Post subject: We just swapped a prisoner to appease terrorists demand?? |
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Can't even begin to tell you how MAD I am at this. This move just put more people's lives in jeopardy (that work in the middle east).
The Iraqi "we" released is a female scientist according to breaking news reports. The Brit presumably will go free in exchange. I'm glad he's freed, but this is a dangerous precedent. It gives these killers bargaining chips to play with.
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Ohmigod, no!!!!!!!
What are we doing?????? This is worse than the beheadings - much worse!
Off to go try to find some news.
I can't believe we'd do this!
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bergstrom79
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Heard it on KRLD radio, Dallas, that MSNBC had reported it. Just heard on CBS *radio* (don't watch cBS tv anymore) that the Iraqi will soon be released. Her nick was "Dr Germ" apparently.
Bad move, man...BAAD move. For every one unfortunate family that had to go thru this, there will be many, many more from here on. The press release was that the Iraqi's made the decision to release her....You'd think it had to be with our blessings.
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bergstrom79
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| We should have cleaned out Fallujah and Najaf to be done with these guys long ago. It's time to lock down and wipe them out. NOW. |
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bergstrom79
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:13 am Post subject: |
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/09/22/iraq.female.prisoners/
It's all preliminary, but it appears teh Iraqi's want to release her....The US stance is "wait a minute, let's think about this".......I hope "we" win the struggle on this.
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:20 am Post subject: |
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She is in US custody and we have not released her, acording to the state department we werent planning to.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3678794.stm
| Quote: | However, the US state department said it did not know of any such plans.
The BBC's Caroline Hawley in Baghdad says that although Ms Taha comes under the Iraqi judicial system, she is physically in the custody of the US which would have to have a role in her release.
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:48 am Post subject: |
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In that CNN story we dont have any prisoners and this woman might not even be in Iraq anymore.
| Quote: | U.S. officials said they are not holding any women in prisons in Iraq. One official said 45 women have been held in Abu Ghraib prison since the start of detainee operations in July 2003, but all have been released.
However, the United States is holding the two women scientists, categorized as "high-value detainees," in an undisclosed location, the official said, describing both as former high-level members of Saddam Hussein's government. They are suspected of participating in the former Iraqi leader's chemical and biological weapons program, the official said
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This reminds me of the one newspaper in Iraq that reported it found a bunch of missiles and when we went over to the location there was nothing. i think an Iraqi official goofed up. neither Blair or Bush would appease insurgents by releasing captives. it would only encourage the terrorists.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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If she is released  then it may be the start of an all out cleaning out of Fallujah and the rest.
So it is either to get some deal going with the terrorists to stop this sort of thiing.. like a good faith thing  or it is all guns to fire. We don't hear eveything that's going on. As I said before we all were made 'soldiers' on 911. I say take them all out now. They think they saw shock and awe??? God this is so bad.  CTW
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| bergstrom79 wrote: | Both al Jezeera and the San Jose Mercury Times headilenes are reporting this woman is to be freed. I hope they're full of S.
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Al Jazeera? Full of S.? No way!  |
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000
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Of course we wont release Dr Germ
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3680120.stm
| Quote: | US 'will not free' Iraq scientist
Mr Hensley's death has not been formally confirmed
The US has dismissed reports from Iraq's justice ministry that one of two female scientists held in a US-run prison was to be released.
A US source told the BBC that both prisoners were in the physical and legal custody of the Americans and would not be freed imminently.
Militants have reportedly killed two American hostages and are threatening to kill a third, Briton Kenneth Bigley.
They had demanded the release of all Iraqi women held in US-run prisons.
The US says it is only holding two women prisoners - Rihab Rashid Taha and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash - that it has no knowledge of any plan to release them.
The UK government told the BBC there was no request by anyone at any level in the government for the women to be freed.
"That would be tantamount to dealing with terrorists," a Downing Street spokesman said.
'Not a threat'
The first US hostage, American engineer Eugene Armstrong, 52, was killed on Monday and 24 hours later the group claimed to have killed a second American, Jack Hensley.
A decapitated body, thought to be that of Mr Hensley, has been found in Baghdad, but it has not been formally identified.
Iraq's Justice Minister Malik al-Hassan told the BBC that he supported the release of Ms Taha, a biological weapons scientist nicknamed Dr Germ.
He said the release would be part of a review of her detention and was not linked to the kidnappers' demands.
Ms Taha is said to have carried out top-secret work during the 1980s on germs that cause botulism poisoning and anthrax infections.
The second woman, Ms Ammash, "may be released soon", the Iraqi justice ministry said.
She is a biotech researcher known as Mrs Anthrax and Chemical Sally, who was on the US military's list of the 55 most-wanted members of Saddam Hussein's regime.
An Iraqi spokesman said Ms Taha was no longer considered a threat to national security.
British family's hope
The family of hostage Kenneth Bigley, 62, earlier welcomed news of the proposed prisoner release.
Mr Bigley's brother Paul told BBC radio: "Hopefully they [the kidnappers] will pick this up on the media, and show that they have a gram of decency in them by releasing Ken."
The three hostages were kidnapped on Thursday by militants claiming to be from the Tawhid and Jihad group, headed by al-Qaeda suspect Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The group claims to have killed at least six hostages in Iraq.
Gruesome video footage was released on Monday showing Mr Armstrong being killed by a masked man - said by the CIA to be Mr Zarqawi. Mr Armstrong's body was later recovered.
"The British prisoner will get the same fate if the British government doesn't do what it has to," said a statement on an Islamist website.
More than 100 foreigners have been abducted in Iraq over the past 17 months, as part of efforts to destabilise the US-backed interim government and to drive out foreign troops.
They include two French journalists who were abducted last month and two female Italian aid workers who were seized with two Iraqi colleagues on 7 September.
Tawhid and Jihad is considered to be the most ruthless of the hostage-takers.
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That Fox news story is really an Ap story. AP in latin means CBS
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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The prisoner released is none other than Doctor Death herself.
Saddam's bioweapons expert. What are these appeasment weasels thinking. The only thing that will come out of this is an increase in the kidnappings and beheadings.
I thought that the official policy was "NEVER GIVE IN TO TERRORIST DEMANDS !!!!!!"
What appeasment weasel is responsible for this? |
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Nathanyl
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox new is reporting now that she is not being released. |
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