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[rsbonds]

In my opinion the rhetoric of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy aids and abets the insurgents in Iraq. The result will be more Iraqi soldiers and civilians and American soldiers killed before and after the coming election. The only thing the insurgents seem to understand is strength.

The insurgents see weakness in the Democratic candidates and will do everything in their power to attack President Bush, just as the Democrats are doing. In a sense, the insurgents and the Deomocrats want the same thing, the defeat of President Bush in the next election.

This type of political tactic, that of aiding an emeny of the United States, is nothing new to John Kerry, he did the same thing when he testified in 1971 and aided and abeted the North Vietnamese during a time of war. If we can point this out to the American people, they will turn away from such candidates and elect candidates that are on our side.

What we may be witnessing here is the decline and fall of the Democratic Party. The American people will not elect candidates that aid and abet the enemies of the United States.

Moderator Note: Topic of this Subject was changed to tone down the partisan rhetoric. Many members who are supporters of SBVT are from various political ideologies. Let's not alienate them.
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[SangRun Hunter]

I totally agree with you rsbonds and I think 99.9% of anyone here will see it the same way.

In my opinion many in America feel the same way, but so many people are willing to sell their principles for an issue they see.

An example would be someone who supports the troops, but want the war to end because they don't like it. They might see Kerry as a way out of this war.

Those the people that scare me.
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[vickie]

Zarcawi's thought, "We need to go for broke! Man if we can just kill enough people, do some of those stomach turning beheadings, the Americans will elect Kerry. Then he will pull out, I will take over and will avenge the deaths of my comrades."


If Bush is elected, there is going to be a big push. And we are all going to die! So, Kill! Kill! Kill! for Kerry! In only six weeks life will be so sweet. In less than a year we will be buying arms from the French to oppress the Sunnis and living in luxury in the green zone!
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[fortdixlover]

Question: Does the rhetoric of (Deleted by Admin) aid & abet the insurgents?

Answer:


**** Y E S ****


-- FDL

Admin note:The Swiftees are supported by a broad spectrum of political ideologies. Please refrain from partisan bashing in this forum.

[rb325th]

Let's tone down the Rhetoric, yes Kerry and the DNC as well as Kennedy and some others have acted out of political desperation, and in doing so have become what the Terrorist see as their best hope for victory.
It IS NOT ALL Democrats. Please do not make blanket statements about ALL of either Party, it is wrong and insulting to many Democrats who do not support their Party.
Be specific about your target.
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[DaveL]

Rush was pointing out on his radio show today that the DNC plan to win the election is now based upon convincing America over the next six weeks that we cannot win the war in Iraq, that Iraq is a quagmire, that it is another Viet Nam...

If true, I guess we should expect to hear plenty of negative emphasis from the Kerry camp along these lines, which will no doubt encourage our enemies and discourage our troops...pretty sad way to try to win an election!

[JCBoston]

Agree about blanketing all Dems. I know many that are voting for Bush, and are disgusted at what they are watching their party do. It's the radical left wing/ anti war people not all Dems.

...and yes their rhetoric most definately aids the cause of our enemies now just as it did during VietNam.

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[ATACKM]

The people in Iraq are getting bits and pieces of an already biased media. I'm sure that each time people protest or speak out against Bush it is the media that is taking it to their living rooms or huts or whatever. They don't understand the balance of Democracy, so they think that we are on the verge of Civil War because we are deciding on a president. Of course they are rooting for Kerry--because that is the insurgents' best hope of disrupting this already volitile situation. Bush's agenda is common knowledge to them: Victory. Now Kerry's solution may include a good health plan and a travel package for the terrorists. He will run it by the French who are already known allies of terrorism. I say this because they ignored the sanctions of the first Gulf War and along with Germany accumulated quite a bit of debt from Iraq. This is money they will never see because we went to war with Iraq. This is also why they opposed the war and this is why they will not commit troops. Oh Yeah and this is why they are rooting for Kerry! Kerry's self-serving agenda has painted targets on every American within reach of terrorists. This was the reason that we changed command early and without warning to the Iraqi government, so as not to induce an uprising designed to affect public oppinion. We don't have that luxury with the upcoming election. It will be on November 02, 2004: the first Tuesday in November and you better believe that troops are going to die because of it. From a military strategist perspective, I think that they need to circle the wagons and dig in and prepare for the surge of attacks. Any movement at this point is going to cost lives. And as for the contractors, I hope they have weighed the risks involved with taking jobs in a war zone. ie. kidnapping and beheading.
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[Doc Jerry]

Hey, I agree we should not blanket all Dems. I happen to be one, although I've not voted for one in a prez election in years. However, please be reminded that the Dem party has allowed itself to be hijacked by the loonies on the far Left of the party. Painting everyone with a broad brush is not fair, but I can't help thinking the Party deserves it.

People ask me why I don't change my party affiliation. I liken it to being a sports fan. Just because you might leave the city where your team plays and a team you've supported for years, does not necessarily mean you abandon the team. And just because your team has not won a pennant for years does not mean you abandon it. There's always hope things will turn around (we Yankee fans even had that problem from the late 1960's to the late 1970's, but we hung in there). I also have to believe that Cub fans certainly understand what I'm trying to say.


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[rsbonds]

I am an American first. The patriotic Democrats should separate themselves from the non-patriotic Democrats. The patriotic-Democrats would win more elections that way.
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[jataylor11]

I am a conservative who believes first and foremost in a strong national defense and the most advanced, strongest military possible. Over the years I have found that this position was supported more by Republicans than Democrats.

I have a question for the members of this forum who identify themselves as Democrats or liberals.

Is there anything you have observed on this forum regarding the Kerry campaign or the DNC you feel is unfair or mischaracterized?

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

I'm mostly conservative and a registered Republican and I've seen things on this forum that were unfair to the Democrats who participate here and who support the Swifts.

Many of the Swifts founders and signers are Democrats, including the much-admired and respected John O'Neill.

I would not make a blanket statement about "Democrats" that I would not say about Mr. O'Neill.

When attempting to make a point concerning political ideologies, I personally prefer the terms "leftists," "pacifists," "appeasers," "socialists," or "anarchists," depending upon which one applies.

Bashing the entire party is not helpful to the discussion and it creates a hostile environment for the participants here who are Democrats.
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[air_vet]

[Ohio Voter]

I sort of agree that blanket statements are not "fair". But can you point to one Democrat that we hear on the news that is saying anything other than what Kerry and campaign tells them to say? They are in lock step, even when they are wrong, until Kerry and company tells them what to say next.