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SangRun Hunter PO1
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Zinzinnati
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: BIAS, BIAS, BIAS??? Does it exist or does it not? |
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If any of you are like me your head is about to explode of this bias in the media argument.
Why are so many smart people lying through their teeth on TV and in columns saying there is nothing wrong and there was no bias.
They think we're stupid, right? Funny thing is I think they're really stupid?
Go ahead and get on TV every night and repeat lies over and over. It does wonders for your reputation. _________________ Mad as Hell! |
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Armybrat/Armymom Commander
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter whether what you say is bias or not the truth, what matters is how you feeeeeel about yourself after you say it. It's a self-esteem thing. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me it is all about ratings and money. Unfortunately, there are people in the media that would sell their soul to the devil just for the ratings. It is up to the rest of us to decipher what is true and what is not. |
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Armybrat/Armymom Commander
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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That too and that's true. |
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MTS17446 Ensign
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 55
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Rasmussen did a poll on media bias. I just don't think this is too accruate, considering they think CNN has the least Bias media. How can that be true with Carville working for Kerry and CNN at the same time?
Is Presidential campaign coverage unbiased, biased to help Kerry, or biased to help Bush?
No Bias:
CNN: 39%
NBC: 39%
Fox: 38%
ABC: 36%
CBS: 33%
Help Kerry:
CBS: 37%
ABC: 30%
NBC: 28%
CNN: 25%
Fox: 7%
Help Bush:
Fox: 34%
CNN: 12%
NBC: 11%
ABC: 10%
CBS: 10%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Broadcast%20Bias.htm |
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MikeM Ensign
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 71
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'll use the same arguement a liberal recently tried to use on me for the reason Bush got elected in 2000.
"You know that by definition, 50% of the US population is below average intelligence"
Anyone who can't recognize bias @ CNN has got to be an idiot! |
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Skypilot Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 82 Location: Eastern PA
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Presidential Elections - AP
Bush Twists Kerry's Words on Iraq
1 hour, 2 minutes ago
By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
WACO, Texas - President Bush (news - web sites) opened several new scathing lines of attack against Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites), charges that twisted his rival's words on Iraq (news - web sites) and made Kerry seem supportive of deposed dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).
It was not unlike the spin that Kerry and his forces sometimes place on Bush's words. Sometimes? Give me a break, PLEASE!
Campaigning by bus through hotly contested Wisconsin on Friday, Bush sought to counter recently sharpened criticism by Kerry about his Iraq policies:
_He stated flatly that Kerry had said earlier in the week "he would prefer the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein to the situation in Iraq today." The line drew gasps of surprise from Bush's audience in a Racine, Wis., park. "I just strongly disagree," the president said.
But Kerry never said that. In a speech at New York University on Monday, he called Saddam "a brutal dictator who deserves his own special place in hell." He added, "The satisfaction we take in his downfall does not hide this fact: We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure."
_Bush attacked Kerry for calling "our alliance 'the alliance of the coerced and the bribed.'"
"You can't build alliances if you criticize the efforts of those who are working side by side with you," the president said in Janesville, Wis.
Kerry did use the phrase to describe the U.S.-led coalition of nations in Iraq, in a March 2003 speech in California. He was referring to the administration's willingness to offer aid to other nations to gain support for its Iraq policies.
But Bush mischaracterized Kerry's criticism, which has not been aimed at the countries that have contributed a relatively small number of troops and resources, but at the administration for not gaining more participation from other nations.
_Bush also suggested Kerry was undercutting an ally in a time of need, and thus unfit to be president, when he "questioned the credibility" of Iraqi interim leader Ayad Allawi.
"This great man came to our country to talk about how he's risking his life for a free Iraq, which helps America," the president said in Janesville. "And Senator Kerry held a press conference and questioned Prime Minister Allawi's credibility. You can't lead this country if your ally in Iraq feels like you question his credibility."
Bush repeated the attack later in the day and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) echoed the message in Lafayette, La. "I must say I was appalled at the complete lack of respect Senator Kerry showed for this man of courage," Cheney said.
Kerry's point was that the optimistic assessments of postwar Iraq from both Bush and Allawi didn't match previous statements by the Iraqi leader, nor the reality on the ground, and were designed to put the "best face" on failed policies.
Bush continued to insist on a mostly upbeat view of Iraq in his weekly radio address Saturday. "The enemies of freedom are using suicide bombings, beheading and other horrific acts to try to block progress. We are sickened by their atrocities, but we will never be intimidated, and freedom is winning," he said. "We're making steady progress."
"Facts can be stubborn things," said Kerry spokesman Phil Singer. "When there's a gap between the reality and the words coming out of the White House, we are going to point them out."
That's not to say Kerry hasn't been playing fast and loose with Bush's words.
Just Friday, the Kerry campaign sent an e-mail to supporters entitled "He said what?" citing Bush's remark that he had seen "a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America."
The e-mail from campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill accused the president of having "no plan to get us out of Iraq" and thinking "the future of Iraq is brighter than the future of America."
Bush has a plan for Iraq — Kerry just disagrees that it is working. And the president wasn't comparing Iraq's future to that of the United States, only accurately reflecting one recent survey in Iraq and the latest trends in America that asked participants for their assessment of the direction their countries are going.
After campaigning in Wisconsin, Bush settled into his ranch in Crawford, Texas, which will be his base of operations for several days as he crams for the first debate of the presidential campaign, to be held Thursday in Coral Gables, Fla.
The first practice session was expected to take place Saturday night, with Sen. Judd Gregg (news, bio, voting record), R-N.H., playing the part of Kerry for a couple of hours and a slew of Bush's most senior White House aides and outside advisers on hand, spokesman Scott McClellan said
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040925/ap_on_el_pr/bush&cid=694&ncid=716
Nope, no bias here! _________________ Please Mr. Kerry Sign Form #180 Now!
Let the truth set you free? NOT! |
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