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neverforget Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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In asking for this particular terrorist pig to be released---even though she won't be---the other terrorist pigs may have just tipped their hand about having biological agents available. _________________ US Army Security Agency
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jataylor11 Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 856 Location: Woodbridge, Virginia
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Kill them all. kill every Islamic facists. My anger still has not subsided from Monday.
Dear Lord forgive me for my hatred. Dear God nothing is impossible with you, please touch these evil hearts that you can turn this evil to good.
I believe that these terrorists are pure evil, satan walking the earth. |
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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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A very interesting insight into this issue is found today on Powerlineblog.com -
http://www.powerlineblog.com
Madness, Yes, But Method Too
It's been a while since we've linked to Debka File, a well-known site that is said to count Israeli intelligence agents among its sources. Its record is by no means infallible, but Debka strikes me as more reliable than most, and more interesting than almost any. So here goes--Debka File on the most recent hostage outrage in Iraq:
The dreadful moment - 2:44 am Iraqi time on Tuesday September 20 - when the Jordanian terrorist Musab al-Zarqawi applied a knife to the 53-year old American construction worker, Eugene Armstrong, from Hillsdale, Michigan, was meticulously recorded on one of al Qaeda’s unspeakable videotapes for broadcast. US sound experts who checked the tape identified the voice reading the short statement before the “execution” as belonging to the masked man who dictated the terms for freeing all three hostages on the tape released soon after their capture, namely Zarqawi in person. The two remaining hostages, the American Jack Hensley and British Kenneth Bigley, now face the same dread fate as Armstrong within 24 hours unless Iraqi women prisoners are released from Baghdad jails.
In the White House and 10 Downing Street, president George W. Bush nor prime minister Tony Blair are holding firm against surrendering to the demands of al Qaeda’s operations chief in Iraq. But they are quietly questioning why Zarqawi attaches so much importance to securing the release of the only five Iraqi women left in American hands.
DEBKAfile’s Washington sources say the answer comes in two interrelated parts:
1. Zarqawi is smart enough not to pose wild ransom demands, such as the release of Saddam Hussein or top-flight Iraqi ex-generals like Chemical Ali Majid to buy the lives of hostages, because then, Bush and Blair’s refusal would be fully backed by Western opinion. He is therefore setting the seeming inconsequential price of five Iraqi women. He reckons that if he keeps on snatching hostages and meting out the same barbaric treatment as he did to Eugene Armstrong on a series of videotapes, public pressure will build up and force the two Western leaders to put a stop to the savage slaughter by abandoning their dogged resistance to the hostage-takers’ demands and setting the women free. Such surrender would then be hailed as a major triumph for the al Qaeda terrorist chief and augur a rising scale of increasingly steep demands.
2. The only five Iraqi women held by the Americans are a long way from being inconsequential. They include two senior scientists attached to Saddam Hussein’s biological weapons program: Dr. Rihab Taha, a microbiologist known as Dr. Germ, and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, head of his anthrax project and member of the Baath ruling command council.
Syria handed the two women over to the Americans on April 28, 2003, together with Dr. Taha’s husband, Gen. Amir Muhammed Rashed, director of Iraq’s missile development program – as first revealed by DEBKA-Net-Weekly 107 five days later, on May 2, 2003.
According to DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources, Zarqawi has been tipped off that one of the two Iraqi scientists is on the point of breaking under questioning and spilling the beans on Saddam’s WMD to her American interrogators. He therefore interceded by seizing the three Western hostages, either to gain her release or scare her into holding silent.
Our sources also believe that Zarqawi has personal acquaintance going back five years with one or both the Iraqi women scientists. A poisons expert himself, the Jordanian terror master frequently passed through Baghdad in the years 1998 and 2002 on his way to the biological and chemical weapons laboratories made available to al Qaeda in the northern Iraqi town of Biyara. He may even have been supplied with equipment, materials and instruction manuals by those very women. The facility was located in an area controlled by Ansar al-Islam which it later transpired was an operational wing of al Qaeda. Zarqawi may be seeking their release so that they can be hired by al Qaeda to continue the biological weapons researches they performed for the deposed Iraqi dictator.
In any case, their loss would put paid once and for all to the Bush administration’s best chance of obtaining evidence to prove Saddam Hussein was running an active banned weapons program. Outside Iraq, the argument over Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction may have ended in favor of the gainsayers; not so on the battlefields against the terrorists.
The enemy we are fighting in this war is so evil--as evil as any, in my opinion, in world history--that it is sometimes hard to detect the patterns of rational, albeit twisted, thought in the sea of madness. Is Debka's analysis right? It is certainly plausible. A great deal more plausible than the image currently promoted in the liberal media of a reformed Saddam who was cowed by impotent U.N. inspectors into abandoning his life-long quest for weird weapons.
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Sounds like I'm going to have to read the Debka blog now.... _________________ MJB
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knightowl77 Ensign
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Glendale, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Nathanyl wrote: | Fox new is reporting now that she is not being released. |
U.S. and Iraq prime minister Alawi say they do not negotiate with terrorists and she will not be released _________________ I hope you don't mind an Army vet on your website. Former NCO in 82nd Airborne Div.
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msindependent Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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MJB wrote:
"Is Debka's analysis right? It is certainly plausible. A great deal more plausible than the image currently promoted in the liberal media of a reformed Saddam who was cowed by impotent U.N. inspectors into abandoning his life-long quest for weird weapons."
I can sure see it. They don't give a damn about women, treat them like slaves. |
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Ohio Voter PO2
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 360
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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You didn't jump the gun, I heard that on the news too. But it was quickly followed with a bit saying it has nothing to do with the hostages. Later news said they were not letting Dr Germ out.
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lftrn97 Seaman Recruit
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