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Arty Guy Seaman
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 190
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject: SBVFT Ad Denounced by Crybabies |
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This link goes to a CNN piece about the most recent ad. It is not favorable to either the Swifties or the ad, but that is not the point. These ads are hurting where it counts. I'm reaching for my checkbook as I hit the enter button.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/23/swiftboat.ad/ |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Chad Clanton, a spokesman for the Kerry campaign, said the Swift Boat Veterans are "a group that has as much credibility as a tabloid magazine."
"The American people are tired of this kind of junkyard politics. They want an honest discussion.... |
Like they get from Dan Rather and CBS?
NONE of the SBVT accounts have been disproven -- and SEVERAL have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, forcing RETRACTIONS by the Kerry Krowd -- and most of the rest haven't even been acknowledged by the Left, never mind "discussed".
Who is engaging in tabloid junkyard politics?
And who is this Chad Clanton? Yet ANOTHER "Kerry spokesman"? It's getting so bad that we're going to have to give them jerseys with numbers and sell programs, just so we know which spokesman is committing which foul!
Makes you wonder why the PRINCIPAL can't address the issues, and has to send out his lackey squad.
Has anyone compiled a definitive list of "Official Kerry Spokesmen"? _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:18 am Post subject: |
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The more they cry, the better it must be... |
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neverforget Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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They had to replace Thad Devine because of his perpetual sneer, although I thought it fit in with the Kerry team very well. _________________ US Army Security Agency
1965-1971 |
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noc PO1
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Dublin, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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cipher wrote: | Quote: | Chad Clanton, a spokesman for the Kerry campaign, said the Swift Boat Veterans are "a group that has as much credibility as a tabloid magazine."
"The American people are tired of this kind of junkyard politics. They want an honest discussion.... |
Like they get from Dan Rather and CBS?
NONE of the SBVT accounts have been disproven -- and SEVERAL have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, forcing RETRACTIONS by the Kerry Krowd -- and most of the rest haven't even been acknowledged by the Left, never mind "discussed".
Who is engaging in tabloid junkyard politics?
And who is this Chad Clanton? Yet ANOTHER "Kerry spokesman"? It's getting so bad that we're going to have to give them jerseys with numbers and sell programs, just so we know which spokesman is committing which foul!
Makes you wonder why the PRINCIPAL can't address the issues, and has to send out his lackey squad.
Has anyone compiled a definitive list of "Official Kerry Spokesmen"? |
Great points Cipher
I think we need to get a good summary letter put out that has the list of TRUTHS of the beyond a showdow of a doubt kind with supporting links for drill down researchers.
We then need to press the media that continues to use the phrase "mostly discredited" to describe the swift boat vets to present the facts.
I'm frankly tired of hearing media people questioning facts which have in virtually all cases proven the positions the swifties have held. |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think we need to get a good summary letter put out that has the list of TRUTHS of the beyond a showdow of a doubt kind with supporting links for drill down researchers. |
You have NO idea how monumental that task would be. If you go to the R&R forum, you will be *overwhelmed* with the sheer weight of evidence.
There IS no simple way to compile it. Well, there is, and it's called "Unfit For Command" and it's widely available and at a reasonable price.
If you want to put your oar in, and compile a *concise* letter, I encourage you to do that, and then break open a thread in the R&R forum for "Concise Proven Point emails"
In order to make it a less daunting task, you may want to break it down to ONE email per specific POINT, and then supply the evidence trail for that ONE point. That way you can avoid MEGO *and* stay focused on your specific target.
Think of it as a series of missions to reach a specific objective in a battle in a greater campaign against the template of a war. One bunker, one hill, one town, at a time.
Good luck. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: |
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There's a Kerry Myth-Buster FAQ in the R&R forum to which all are invited to participate.
In a single message, begin with the myth, then debunk it - cite the sources that you use for research, please.
Every single contribution to that thread is welcome - don't re-invent the wheel - there's a TON of stuff already debunked - read through the thread first to see what's covered.
PM contributors of a specific myth-buster to suggest additions to their debunking.
cipher is absolutely correct - the amount of information in R&R is staggering. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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BC PO3
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 288 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget about the "Wintersoldier and VVAW Leadership" area either great stuff in that section also. _________________ Remember United Flight 93, "Are you guys ready? Let's roll."
Duty Honor Country |
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hleone Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 81
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Am I crazy, or does W always speak for himself, answering any question about any tough subject, with a specific, coherent and consistent response.
I don't remember anyone else speaking on behalf of George Bush. His supporters completely understand and aggressively defend his strategies, but they don't speak for him.
But John Kerry has never specifically answered even one single question about anything pertaining to his "mystery" candidacy during the entire campaign.
Of course his goons don't provide answers either. But they are out there as his surrogates, attacking Bush instead of providing information, because they are just as much in the dark as the rest of us about what Kerry might do.
Yet this is the campaign that spends most of its time blaming Bush for not having a plan to win in Iraq!
Example:
Question:
Senator Kerry, what specifically would you have done differently in Falusia to avoid the difficult situation we have there today?
Kerry's Answer:
Well, as I have consistently stated, I wouldn't have done just one thing differently than George Bush. I would have done everything differently, and we would not be in this terrible situation in Falusia today.
Kool-aid Drinker in Audience:
Yeah! That's what I'm talking 'bout! Bush is an idiot! He screwed up the whole situation! He lied to us about WMD's! We shouldn't even be in Iraq!
John Kerry - you are the man! Kerry! Kerry! Kerry!
How do we fight this lunacy?
Please Destroy him now, Swiftees! |
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God and Country PO3
Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 274 Location: God's country
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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They are not crybabies, they are communist PIGS.
_________________ Conservative and proud |
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coldwarvet Admiral
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | battleground states -- Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Nevada and New Mexico -- and on national cable networks. | What happened to WI? I guess the WI territory has been captured. Way to go swiftvets! Lets march on to CA, NY and even DC the whole country will be pollster red by 11/2/04. _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
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vietnamvet173 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 95 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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cipher wrote: | Quote: | Chad Clanton, a spokesman for the Kerry campaign, said the Swift Boat Veterans are "a group that has as much credibility as a tabloid magazine."
"The American people are tired of this kind of junkyard politics. They want an honest discussion.... |
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Today SBVT have some credibility with the Kerry campaign abate that of a tabloid.
This is a step up. Last week the Kerry campaign insisted that the SBVT were total liars.
Perhaps someday they will open their eyes and see that SBVT are telling the truth and that their candidate Kerry is not what he seems. Long ago he sold himself to his ambition. Living a life as a fraud I doubt that Kerry knows who he is anymore.
My only question is who will he marry next after Ms. T takes a hike with her money. |
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Doc Farmer LCDR
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 442 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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neverforget wrote: | They had to replace Thad Devine because of his perpetual sneer, although I thought it fit in with the Kerry team very well. |
Wasn't Devine some sort of female impersonator/crossdresser type? I seem to remember that name from somewhere... _________________
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