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Paul R. · PO3 Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Illinois

A few thoughts:

Israel's Intel is better than ours -- ours is still recovering from the '90's.

I don't "know" any Iranians in Iran, but, I was following a few bloggers there for a while. One "Lady Sun" comes to mind, but she seems to have vanished & now some other (business) website comes up when I go to that link.... Don't get me wrong, she's no Bushie, but she and a lot of other Iranians are pro-freedom and hate their oppressive gov't. The problem is, their fear is even greater, and "Lady Sun" abruptly going "off the air" may put an exclamation point on that.

Can we somehow help those who want freedom in Iran? That's one considerable question, but the answer is not to "nuke" them all.

Israel is not going to nuke anybody unless Israel is attacked by WMD.
But if Iran is a threat, the Israelis will handle it.
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eXcel · Seaman Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 174

So you are advocating the "let Israel nuke um all and be done with it" idea? You are nuts if you think that is a viable solution or a moral one.

TEWSPilot · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:21 pm Post subject:

There were Iranians in my Air Force Undergraduate Pilot Training class, and although rich and arrogant, they were our allies in the middle east...of course, that was long before Jimmy Carter sold them out (is he a good friend of John Kerry?) and undermined the entire military/political structure in the region. Maybe he and Kerry drink the same flavor of Kool Aid. Rolling Eyes

...not trying to get religious or going off the deep end, but some fairly bright philosophers a long time ago alluded to a situation similar to what is beginning to transpire in the middle east, but of course that eventually concludes with something referred to down the road as "The Battle of Armageddon"...you don't suppose? <<feversihly trying to find Soddom and Gemorah on a map of the ancient middle east>> Shocked

...I've got a question. Let's suppose another country built a nuclear weapon and then made arrangements to detonate it in a major population center in the United States, you know, where there were millions of civilians as the intended target. And suppose we negotiated with them not to do it, but they were intent on doing it even using suicide bombers to set it off. Add as many other means as you want to persuade them NOT to do it, but they all fail. Would the government of the United States be morally obligated to destroy that capability using whatever method it took before they reached the point of completing that dastardly task even if it meant causing civilian casualties in their country? What if the target were Israel? What should their government do? Crying or Very sad

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Guest · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject:

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azpatriot · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject:

ProtestWarriors state this so eloquently.

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Se7eN · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 47

Look at how small Israel is. They haven't survived that region of the world by being complacent or ignorant.

I'm confident they will deal with this situation appropriatley, with or without the help of the US. As a matter of fact, they teach us how to do anti-terrorism intel gathering.

They also possess missile technology they refuse to share with anyone.

I hope Israel sends out a message for the 21st century creatons of the world.

Paul R. · PO3 Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Illinois

Doll,

Pretty big difference between a precision strike and "nuking them all".

I would hope we are on a little higher thought level than the terrorists.
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Paul R. · PO3 Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Illinois

Hey, "AZ",

You should add the most populous Muslim country in the world, Indonesia!
And then there's Malaysia, and....

When it comes to survival, the Israelis have a pretty good handle on it.
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azpatriot · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject:

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Everyone who's riled, take a chill moment. Visit the parody threads or go make some coffee.

It's easy to understand that emotions run high regarding this topic, and when your emotions are engaged, they can outrun your logic in getting to the keyboard.

There is an edit function available to you with which you can go back and clarify your thoughts on the matter.

There is an edit function which is also valuable for toning down your rhetoric when you realize that you've gone a little over the top or when you see that you've blasted another member unnecessarily.

After you click the "Edit" key, there is a "delete" option available to you.

Use these options as you see fit.

All of you are valuable members of this forum. Let's please speak to each other with that in mind.

Keep your eyes on the prize - we cannot let John Kerry have any more control over our armed forces or foreign policy than he already does.

Thanks! Y'all are great!
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eXcel · Seaman Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 174