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NavyChief

I can't believe we missed this one. It was sitting there in front of our faces the whole time -- irrefutable proof of authorship of the AARs.

I need anyone/everyone to look for anything in print where Kerry denied writing the After Action reports, please.

This is a rush item Cool

- Chief

ml2517 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 9

On the edge of my seat. Twisted Evil

m_drummond · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas TX

I'm looking, but it may not do much good, because he's also claimed that he did write Spots -
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200408/NAT20040826a.html
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DenisC · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject:

NavyChief, A Google News search using "After Action Report"+Kerry gets 33 hits. Not sure if this help, but I will read them.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22After+Action+reports%22%2BKerry&btnG=Search+News

Kerry feels heat for actions while in Vietnam — and after
AirForceTimes.com, United States - Sep 21, 2004
... Swift Boat Veterans argue that many of Kerry’s awards were based on after-action reports written by Kerry — begging the question of why their objections ...
New Navy After-action Report Backs Swiftvets
NewsMax.com, FL - Sep 19, 2004
... Corsi echoed claims of the Swiftvets, who say that Kerry himself likely authored several of the key after-action reports, suggesting that the contradictions ...
A Fresh Start
**, United States - Sep 23, 2004
... first took to the nation's airwaves to slime John Kerry's service in ... he had won, and stories were floated of doctored after-action reports and superficial ...
A CBS-Kerry Campaign Connection?
Washington Dispatch, United States - Sep 21, 2004
... Ken Mehlman to urge Mehlman give Swift Boats Vet leader John O'Neill a call so that O'Neill would provide some after-action reports on a Kerry mission that ...
Deception? Alas, Mr. Fickett's tapped the wrong party
The Free Lance-Star, VA - Sep 18, 2004
... Why? Because Kerry wrote up his own award recommendations and his own after-action reports? Are we not to consider obvious falsehoods ...
You Can Report, But We Will Decide
Common Dreams - Aug 25, 2004
... anybody reading it with practical knowledge would know that" and because other officers such as Thurlow said that Kerry often wrote after-action reports. ...
Kerry Didn't Go to Vietnam Seeking Medals, Says Supportive Vet
Town Hall, DC - Aug 25, 2004
... officer of the US Navy's Coastal Division 13 during the Vietnam War dismissed accusations Tuesday that John Kerry manipulated after-action reports in order to ...
Swift boat accounts incomplete, flawed
Savannah Morning News, GA - Aug 24, 2004
... boat after-action reports at the Naval Historical Center here reveals several that include the initials "KJW" but describe incidents at which Kerry was not ...
Page 3: 'I Can Recall Often Sending in the Spot Reports'
HUMAN EVENTS - Aug 27, 2004
... not settle the issue, but it does provide circumstantial evidence that backs Thurlow's claim that Kerry often maneuvered to write the after-action reports. ...
Distinguished USMC Vet Comments on Kerry's Metals
ChronWatch, United States - Sep 15, 2004
... on Kerry’s Swift Boat were based not on recommendations by superiors, as is normal, but based on fraudulent after-action reports submitted by Kerry himself. ...

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ASPB · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject:

If it's irrefutable why does it matter if he flopped again? He's on record as saying before the Senate that he "often" wrote CAARs. Thurlow and others are on record as saying Kerry wanted to write the reports and they let him.

To me, catching him in a lie is much less important than proving he wrote the key reports that led to award recommendations. In other words what reports led Zummie and Hoffman to send BZ's and recommend "special recognition", which we all know means medals.
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BenDeR · Lt.Jg. Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 103

Still looking but found this:

NavyChief · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject:

sdonions · PO3 Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 294

NavyChief...You are DA MAN. Thank you for all the time you spend looking into the documents. Very Happy

NavyChief · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject:

I've got several articles that question whether Kerry wrote the 13 March 69 incident but nothing from Kerry himself.

I can't find anything for Kerry's statement a few weeks back where he claimed the Navy documented his actions and he swore to God the Navy's account was the truth.

- Chief

Truegrit · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject: Kerry's Miltiary Service Records

Behind every document there are human hands, people who typed the documents, filed the documents, read the documents.

Surely there are people out there, perhaps people working in the Pentagon, who know about Kerry's military service records and what is in those records.

Why are we having such a difficulty time getting access to this information?
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m_drummond · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas TX

Here's where he's mentioning heading back to write a "report". Next to last paragraph, first sentence of BG article printing an excerpt from Kerry's War Journal. Interestingly, this should have been the report that confirmed his X-mas in Cambodia - so where is it, ie the report!

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/journal_day2.shtml
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hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

As for a central tenet of the Swift Boats controversy, WaPo says of the after-action reports:

O'Neill has said that the initials "KJW" on the bottom of the report "identified" it as having been written by Kerry. It is unclear why this should be so, as Kerry's initials are JFK. A review of other Swift boat after-action reports at the Naval Historical Center here reveals several that include the initials "KJW" but describe incidents at which Kerry was not present.
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Even if Kerry did write the March 13 after-action report, it seems unlikely that he would have been the source of the information about "enemy bullets" flying around Thurlow. The official witness to those events, according to Thurlow's medal recommendation form, was Radioman 1st Class Robert Lambert, a member of his crew.

http://scoop.agonist.org/story/2004/8/21/91514/0504

hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

“Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam and awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts,” Kerry said. “Thirty years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5758982/

Nomorelies · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject:

http://www.newscentral.tv/uploads/franchise/point/point-20040913.shtml
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Nomorelies · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject:

Are you referring to the document where Kerry shot a teenager in the back?

Question: is there a page missing?
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