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ranch hand
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Remember last winter when Kerry was skiing and fell down.
He screamed at his secret service guy something like "I don't fall down. You caused me to fall down."
Is this behavior consistant with what you are talking about?
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Aristotle The Hun
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| ranch hand wrote: | Remember last winter when Kerry was skiing and fell down.
He screamed at his secret service guy something like "I don't fall down. You caused me to fall down."
Is this behavior consistant with what you are talking about?
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Yup. Look at the title of this thread. Dis him and he will kill you.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| ranch hand wrote: | Remember last winter when Kerry was skiing and fell down.
He screamed at his secret service guy something like "I don't fall down. You caused me to fall down."
Is this behavior consistant with what you are talking about?
R Evans |
It goes along the same lines as what I've observed ranch hand, although what you said would have a slightly different name, like deferral of responsibility. In a case like that (and I apologise to the professionals here, because I'm sure there are more accurate and technical terms), a person could do something, but it's someone else's fault, or someone else had to cause it. What I was referring to in my previous post is the absolute rejection of the fact that he had lied, and since he could not have lied, accuses everyone else of lying. It's a very warped personality that does this, but I've seen it in a couple of other people.
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I've always thought he was very effemenate. Have you ever noticed how he catches a football (with his eyes closed). Definitely a girlie-man. As a matter of fact, when he's with Terrreeezzzzaaa it seems they have a complementary role-reversal. Does she wear the pants in the family or not?
I wonder if the men who served with him in Vietnam observed his feminine side then and simply did not know how to express that observation? I wonder if there are references to his feminity in the records that he is hiding?
I think there was a serious problem with his marriage to Julia Thorne and perhaps this is an issue she is hiding.
Earlier this year there was a rumor about him having an affair with a female intern that was quickly put down. Could there have been other liasons of a different type? I wonder about the women he "dated" before he met Terreezzzza. Could they share any input?
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fortdixlover
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| Beatrice1000 wrote: | | I think if he was in a situation where more than one reporter was yelling questions at him about his stories and what the Swiftees are saying (like the reporters do to Bush when they get the chance) - that he might possibly lose his control and have an absolutely violent tantrum fit. He's unstable and dangerous -- and weak, very, very weak. |
That would be spectacular. Unfortunately, the reporters appease him and are his apologists. One huge, massive dysfunctional family: Kerry and the MSM.
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neverforget
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The characteristics that cross all Cluster B PD's I am talking about are lack of empathy and sense of entitlement. Those are the ones Kerry evidences the most. Actually, I think all leftists have these problems. Their supposed care and concern for people less fortunate remind me of the fake empathy of people with Anti-social PD.
As to whether Kerry is a girlie-man, I think so, but I don't think it is related to Borderline PD in the way a woman's is. Most women with Borderline PD have been sexually abused at young ages.
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neverforget
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For example regarding Anti-social PD "empathy:"
>>As the 2004 elections near, a question haunts the Democrats: why will so many lower-income voters “betray” their brethren and vote for Republicans ? [snip] Where have the party theoreticians of the left gone wrong in their understanding of the "common people" -- as Teresa Heinz Kerry so bluntly calls them?<<
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3878
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Iwo
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Hey, good discussion. I thought I was the only one who noticed the effeminate characteristics:
Yes, the football catching awkwardness.
His weak saluting
When he raises his arm with the clenched fist "black power" sign he pumps his arm weakly, rather than holding it firmly in the air.
Those photos with Edwards: His arm around his waist? His fingers touching, stroking Edwards face? Give me a break.
His hands and wrists are somehow often wrong, fingers back, wrists not straight, hard to describe but something I noticed.
Also, don't know if this is related to something else, but his tongue is often flicking out like a snake, or licking his lips...?
Anyway, the guy gives me the creeps.
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The Balloon Artist
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| neverforget wrote: | The characteristics that cross all Cluster B PD's I am talking about are lack of empathy and sense of entitlement. Those are the ones Kerry evidences the most. Actually, I think all leftists have these problems. Their supposed care and concern for people less fortunate remind me of the fake empathy of people with Anti-social PD.
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Bingo
When one of these shows the least amount of concern for another person, they are looking for a payoff for themselves without fail.
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neverforget
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Leftists remind of guys I used to evaluate in the jail. It was all "Yes sir, no sir, yes, Mr. _____" until I told them, "No, I'm not going to get you out of jail." Then it was every expletive known and some I didn't.
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truthserum
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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I love this topic.
Something I noticed and wonder if others have, is when I watch his eyes while he is talking (which admittedly is a cringing thing to do), his eyes seem vacant. He never seems to look at anyone in particular when he speaks. His eyes seem to flit about with no real focus.
Also, when he uses his hands and arms while speaking, they sort of flail, just like he does on issues.
All I know is that when I watch his body language it is a real turnoff and I feel very uncomfortable watching him.
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| Quote: | A narcissistic individual is preoccupied with fantasies of his brilliance as well as his unlimited success or power. He fantasizes about beauty or ideal love;
A narcissistic individual believes that he is "special" or "unique." He feels that he can only be understood by or should associate with other special or high status people; |
Doh! I think I have this  |
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Aristotle The Hun
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| JCBoston wrote: | | Quote: | A narcissistic individual is preoccupied with fantasies of his brilliance as well as his unlimited success or power. He fantasizes about beauty or ideal love;
A narcissistic individual believes that he is "special" or "unique." He feels that he can only be understood by or should associate with other special or high status people; |
Doh! I think I have this |
LOL  Maybe I do too.
Seriously, Personality disorders are extreme manifestations of traits we all have. For instance a person who packs his suitcase very carefully would be considered excessively responsible. If the person spent so much time packing the suitcase that he missed the flight he was supposed to be on he would be considered obsessive-compulsive.
So, do not despair. Unless you decide to run for President you will probably be ok.
Sam
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