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Doc Jerry Commander
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 339
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject: "Mission Accomplished" not appropriate for Kerry |
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It now appears the J.F. Kerry campaign is using the "Mission Accomplished" banner against Bush. However, what the media and the Kerry campaign don't tell us should J.F. Kerry been president, the banner would have read: "Mission Hopeless."
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, they've been using that banner against the President since the carrier landing.
That ship had been on station for (if I remember correctly) nine months!
The people on that ship deserved that banner and the huge homecoming that it got, including the visit from the President.
I will never forget the sight of those throngs of enlisted people surrounding him and THAT'S what scares the snit out of the DNC - that many of us won't forget that hour.
Kerry and his ilk are just unmasking their disdain for the military when they pull crap like this. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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msindependent Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I'm concerned the Mission Was Accomplished. At this same time, the brass also said that building the road to democracy was going to be the harder task (or something like that). |
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homesteader PO3
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 294 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: |
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On the day President Bush landed on the carrier, he was the meanest, baddest godfather on earth in the minds of the Iraqis and most others in the Middle East. Many may have hated him and even feared him but they respected him. To this day in many parts of the Islamic world if someone wants to make a point that he means business and noncompliance with his wishes will mean a severe pounding, he'll say "I'm going to Bush ya". In other word "Don't mess with me." It started with President Bush (41) in Kuwait.
The concept of a strong man, warlord, godfather, benefactor, champion, is still embedded in the tribal Middlern Eastern mentalities. There is respect for someone who means what he says and follows up by using power like they would use it if they had it.
At the time of the "Mission Accomplished" declaration there was a window of opportunity to significantly neutralize any potential resistance in Iraq. This window was slammed shut, however, by the second guessers and nay sayers in the US who could not tolerate seeing the US be so successful. This revived a defeated enemy that had miscalculated when assuming Bush would behave like Clinton in Somalia. Now they saw an opening to undermine the US at home. Very quickly the Democratic talking points were being parroted by the likes of Al Sadr to be broadcast over Al Jazeera. The MSM was already doing that here in the US.
Kerry says President Bush miscalculated. He sure did. He did not anticipate the duplicity and treachery of Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle et. al. The tragic irony is that when Democrats grandstand about unfortunate events in Iraq, they are blaming the President for developments that are very much a result of their own treasonous behavior. |
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DaveS Ensign
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:33 am Post subject: |
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I remember watching him land on the carrier and thinking how proud I was of him. How could any true American not have been escapes me. |
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The Balloon Artist PO3
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:10 am Post subject: |
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They danced in the streets on September 2nd 1945 and how many more men died securing the peace? _________________ What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five. |
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sleeplessinseattle LCDR
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 430
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: |
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homesteader wrote: |
The concept of a strong man, warlord, godfather, benefactor, champion, is still embedded in the tribal Middlern Eastern mentalities. There is respect for someone who means what he says and follows up by using power like they would use it if they had it...
...The tragic irony is that when Democrats grandstand about unfortunate events in Iraq, they are blaming the President for developments that are very much a result of their own treasonous behavior. |
Excellent analysis homesteader and while I don't think there's a direct one for one causation there is definitely strong correlation between the liberal 'blame America first' crowd and the boldness of the terrorists as currently constituted in Iraq. They are definitely emboldened by those weak kneed attitudes spouted ad naseum by the Kerry granola head, sitting duck group.
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Kerry hasn't the sense God gave a goose.
The "Mission Accomplished" was that the MISSION of destroying the IRAQ military and its command structure and securing the capital was ACCOMPLISHED.
That marked the start of the NEXT mission, which is winning the hearts and minds of the people. For the MOST part, that mission is nearly accomplished. It is well on its way to being complete, except for mopping up the pockets of resistance. That will take time, and the CinC *never* implied it would be either FAST or EASY. At no time did he say it was complete or that THAT particular mission was accomplished.
As far as the Navy was concerned (and those were the guys on board that carrier), the mission WAS accomplished. And it WAS. No one can take that from them.
As much as Kerry tries to state otherwise, that dog don't hunt. At least, not for those of us with any sense.
And for that bunch that says Dubya looked silly in that flight suit seem to conveniently forget that Dubya actually RATES wearing it. AND a pilot's aviator wings, thank you very much. He has over 300 hours in combat aircraft, which is a LOT of butt time behind the stick for anyone.
Now Kerry in a flight suit would be totally inappropriate -- outside of the minor detail that if you fly in a military fighter jet and shooting a carrier landing, even as supercargo, you gotta wear the suit. Its SOP and expected. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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