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fanningp
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 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: Voter Fraud FINALLY investigated |
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Caught this on Free Republic this morning....
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State investigates Metro voter fraud
Nashville City Paper ^ | September 28, 2004 | Craig Boerner
Posted on 09/28/2004 4:36:42 AM PDT by tdadams
About 200 "citizens" who don't exist registered to vote in Davidson County for the Nov. 2 presidential election and now the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is investigating the person who submitted those forms on behalf of Tennessee Citizen Action (TCA).
The false cards are believed to be the work of a temporary employee hired by Tennessee Citizen Action, a consumer advocacy group working to push voter registration. Voter registration fraud is a felony.
TBI spokesperson Jennifer Johnson confirmed Monday that District Attorney General Torry Johnson asked her department last week to investigate the incident and that investigation is ongoing.
"Believe it or not, we work [voter fraud] cases all of the time," Johnson said. "Every single one is different but even since I have been here, in the last month and a half, we have worked other voter fraud cases in other towns.
"Sometimes it is as simple as somebody thinking that a ballot box has been contaminated to something more elaborate."
The TCA employee in question, whose name has not been released, was fired immediately after Metro Election Commission staff members discovered the false cards. The person was being paid by the hour and not per registration.
State Elections Coordinator Brook Thompson received the false forms from the Election Commission and forwarded them to District Attorney General Torry Johnson, who asked the TBI to investigate the case.
"After the TBI submits its report, our office will consider whether the facts and evidence warrant a criminal prosecution," Johnson wrote in a letter detailing the investigation.
Persons who have viewed the cards, including Thompson and Metro Interim Administrator of Elections Ray Barrett, said it appears the names, addresses and Social Security numbers were all made up. Barrett said it looks as if they had been filled out with the same ink pen and the signatures also looked alike.
"The people across the hall that enter all of this stuff … there was one group in here that was bringing them in, it seemed like, one big box at a time," Barrett said.
"It looked like the big group was the same ink, the same date, the same handwriting. That's when they showed me and, of course, I'm not a handwriting expert but I took them up to [Thompson] and he took it from there … somebody said it was around 200 [forms], I didn't think it was 200 but it was quite a few."
Barrett also noted that all of the cards, which were submitted following the registration deadline in July, were carefully scrutinized to make sure no legitimate voter registrations were removed. None of the false cards made their way onto official voting lists.
Barrett and Thompson both said TCA has been effective in registering voters in the past and stricter safeguards have been put in place by the organization. |
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Daniel J. Hutchison
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:32 pm Post subject: Voter Fraud |
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| This looks like a very wide spread problem which one would expect from Chicago but not from the rest of the country. This thread should be used to document in one place all of the cases. Normally it is only a local issue. |
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fanningp
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Voter Fraud |
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| Daniel J. Hutchison wrote: | | This looks like a very wide spread problem which one would expect from Chicago but not from the rest of the country. This thread should be used to document in one place all of the cases. Normally it is only a local issue. |
I agree......everyone that stumbles across an article similar where voter fraud is either investigated or IGNORED should post links so we can get the word out about how widespread this crap is.....what some folks have found is there are some ties to some organizations like the Ohio and Michigan drives that are caught up in controversy right now.
It's just a shame that the left accuses the right of attempting to keep the black or elderly vote out of the election, but then you turn around and start hearing reports of deceased people reregistering, or like last night a caller to a talk show reporting that her husband received a phone call from the registrar saying someone tried to re-register him using his nickname as his first name.....his nickname is in the PHONEBOOK!!!!!!!....ummm can you say OBVIOUS FRAUD here in Wisconsin?
Sheesh...makes my stomach turn.......
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hammondb3
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You know, if they can keep dishonest people from crashing the gates at Disneyworld and Universal Studios by marking their hands with a fluorescent ink then why not do the same thing at the Polls to keep dishonest people from placing multiple votes? Once you enter the polling place a worker would stamp your hand with a fluorescent dye that would last at least 24 hours. Anyone with dye on their hands would be denied access to the polls for a second go at it.
That just seems too simple for the government to be interested in. It does not discriminate against anyone. If a polling place was to run out of ink or if a fluorescent lamp was to fail then nobody is denied a vote. It would only serve to help safeguard fraud.
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azTrish
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Stacman
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Continues to amaze me at how much the powers that be are so unwilling to utilize the technologies available. High end computers can scan thousands of complete records, not to mention billions of bits of information from databases in the same amount of time. Social Security Administration has databases of all numbers issued. Why can't voter registration requests scan those or similar databases for valid SSN's, and other information?
Oh I forgot, that would be a violation of someone's constitutional rights (depending on which party was guilty of stacking the deck)...
I really wish they'd move towards computer based everything. These new antiquated voter machines are twenty five year old technology. Go computer registration and voting if they want maximum voter turnout... |
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DaveL
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Requiring government issued picture ID be shown at the polling place seems reasonable to me....I don't buy the left's argument that this is somehow discriminatory.
Of course I also don't understand the resistance to a national ID with integrated data chip to replace easy-to-forge state drivers licences...this would dramatically help to safeguard our democracy by reducing voter fraud, and by restricting the movement of illegal aliens and potential terrorists within our borders. |
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eXcel
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| every one of these voter fraud felons need to go away for a long time. |
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fanningp
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject: Finally in WI....an investigation! |
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Finally....an investigation......here's the URL...but the article is included below for those who are not registered.....
http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/sep04/262511.asp
| Quote: | Voter registration drive comes under scrutiny
By TOM KERTSCHER
tkertscher@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Sept. 28, 2004
Racine - A group that says it has registered 30,000 voters in southeastern Wisconsin could face a criminal investigation because of voter registration applications that may have been filed fraudulently.
Acting Racine City Clerk Carolyn Moskonas said Tuesday she will ask the district attorney's office to investigate at least six voter registration applications filed by Project Vote.
That non-profit organization, which also has filed scores of Racine applications that contain bogus addresses, has fired its Racine-area coordinator because of problems with the filings.
Moskonas said that in each of the six potential fraud cases, the people named on the Project Vote applications told her office they had not signed the forms and had not been contacted by any voter registration drives.
"It was kind of scary," Racine Affirmative Action Officer Jerry Scott said about seeing his name and apparently forged signature on one of the six applications. He was already registered to vote and also registers voters as a volunteer.
"I'm a firm believer that your name is one thing about you that is sacred and it should be protected," Scott said. "Someone forging your name and your signature - I think there should be some pretty strict penalties for that."
Denise Peterson said she also was outraged that her name and signature and those of her husband, Terry Peterson, also were on forms that she said they did not complete or authorize.
"I hope somebody finds out who's doing this," she said.
The same problem has surfaced in neighboring Caledonia, said Town Clerk Wendy Christensen. She has asked Caledonia police to investigate cases in which four residents said they had not signed applications turned into the clerk's office, including at least two submitted by Project Vote.
Whether the possibly fraudulent voter registration applications could lead to any widespread voter fraud seems unlikely, because anyone wanting to vote in someone else's name would have to know which faked applications were processed, Moskonas and Christensen said.
But they said they could not guarantee that they will catch all of the applications that have problems.
Doris Alexander, head of Project Vote in Milwaukee, said she fired Damien Jones, the organization's Racine-Kenosha coordinator, last Friday after she learned there were problems in Racine.
She said she did not know details of the problems and would not comment further on Jones.
"I'm very hopeful that we can resolve this right away," Alexander said. "We're confident that whatever problems that we're having will be eliminated."
Jones, a former Racine resident who is the Green Party candidate for a state Assembly seat in Milwaukee in the Nov. 2 election, said his termination "was pretty much a mutual thing." He said the Racine problems were serious but isolated, given that Project Vote - which pays workers $7 an hour and $1.50 per application after they reach a quota - has filed nearly 1,900 voter registration applications with the city in the past couple of months.
"Project Vote has a very open hiring process, and sometimes you get people who are more worried about getting a paycheck than about doing the right thing," Jones said.
Alexander said Project Vote targets first-time voters and the "disenfranchised" and has filed 30,000 voter registration applications in Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha.
Project Vote is not affiliated with the New Voters Project, which targets people ages 18 to 24. Bruce Speight, the New Voters Project's Wisconsin director, said his organization has filed 122,000 voter registration applications in the state.
Moskonas said she hoped this week to provide details of the six possible fraud cases to the district attorney's office.
Deputy District Attorney Michael Nieskes said his office probably would ask Racine police or the Sheriff's Department to investigate.
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fanningp
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Someone just related a story on a local talk show that she was approached by a clipboard wearing a "Kerry-Edwards" shirt asking if she was registered to vote. This was on-campus at UW-Milwaukee. She stated she was already registered. The clipboard then said, "Well, why don't you go ahead and register again under your maiden name?"......ARRRRRRRRRGHGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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