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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: Parlez-Vous Political Free Fall? Reply with quote

You gotta love Ann's writing style Very Happy

http://www.anncoulter.org/

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Parlez-Vous Political Free Fall?
September 29, 2004
Recent polls show Bush ahead of Kerry by 9 points (CBS-NYT), 6 points (Gallup) or 3 points (Zogby). One Pew poll even put Bush ahead of Kerry by 16 points. The average of national polls has Bush 6 points ahead. Apparently, just like in Vietnam, it's taken Kerry only four months to piss off everyone around him.

The polls for Kerry are so bad that Al Hunt and Michael Moore are starting to yelp, "The polls mean nothing! Ignore the polls!" The only polls liberals ever considered "unimpeachable" were the ones that showed high approval ratings for Clinton during his impeachment – who never got a 50 percent approval rating from Americans in an actual election.

Soon Democrats will be wheeling out the old chestnut about the only poll that counts being the one they take on Dec. 2 (or whenever they finish the recount demanded by Democrats after Kerry's loss).

Another bad augury for Kerry is that only 40 percent of his supporters in the New York Times-CBS poll like him. Nearly as many say they are supporting him simply because they dislike Bush. By contrast, 80 percent of Bush supporters like their candidate, and only 9 percent say they support him because they dislike Kerry.

Most inauspicious, just weeks before the election, Kerry is still trying to shore up the black vote. Poor Kerry can't even count on my gender in this election: Bush leads Kerry among women voters 48 percent to 43 percent (NYT-CBS). In 1980, Ronald Reagan split the women's vote with Carter and still whipped him. This year, Bush has a 5-point lead with the weaker sex.

In addition to major swings through black churches and the "Dr. Phil" TV show, Kerry is still trying to win the confidence of Moveon.org loonies. Last week, Kerry gave a speech at New York University – the site of some of Al Gore's nuttier pronouncements about Bush – to denounce "Halliburton."

Amid a solid stream of bad news, the New York Times reported on its own poll – showing Kerry 8 points behind Bush – in an article titled: "Bush Opens Lead Despite Unease Voiced in Survey." The Times bases its "unease" conclusion on some secret documents recently given to them by Bill Burkett. This would seem to go against the 80 percent likeability rating among Bush supporters I cited previously – but hey, it's good to see Jayson Blair working again.

In fact, the only "unease" expressed by voters in the Times poll seems to center on the possibility that Kerry could be elected president. Sixty percent of respondents to the Times poll said they do not have confidence that Kerry could deal wisely with an international crisis. Only 26 percent of respondents said they had "a lot" of confidence in Kerry's ability to stop another terrorist attack, compared to 51 percent who have a lot of confidence in Bush's ability to do so.

How about that for the next Kerry-Edwards bumper sticker? "Three-quarters of us don't trust him on terror, but only 60 percent of us think he'd be incompetent in any international crisis."

And yet Times reporters Adam Nagourney and Janet Elder reasoned "there are signs that the election remains competitive ..." Most of these "signs" can be found posted on the Bushlied.com website.

After reading the Times' peculiar interpretation of its poll, I thought it might be fun to see how the Times reported on the polls preceding the largest electoral landslide in U.S. history: Ronald Reagan's 1984 a**-whipping of Walter Mondale. For the moveon.org voters and other ignorant teenagers, in the end, Reagan would win that election 59 percent to 40 percent. But in August 1984, the Times wrote about Reagan's massive lead over Mondale after the Republican Convention in an article titled: "Convention in Dallas: The Republicans, the Dangers Ahead."

Among the "dangers" for Reagan astutely noted by the Times was "the very fact that he appears so far ahead of Mr. Mondale." (Of course, the principal "danger" as far as the Times was concerned was that Reagan might win the Cold War and dispatch the left's favorite country.)

Times headlines in 1984 mostly ignored national polls and instead lavished a lot of news coverage on the enthusiasm of women voters for Mondale: "Women Voters Found Equally Divided in Poll" and "Ferraro Gets Feminists' Praise at Enthusiastic Rally in Manhattan." (According to the Times' own exit polls that year, Reagan won 57 percent of the women's vote. Mondale and John Kerry won their own states that year solely on the basis of the women's vote.)

In August 1984, Tom Wicker claimed on the Times' op-ed page that Mondale – who would go on to lose every state in the nation except Minnesota – had a shot at winning Texas. Texas! Not Massachusetts, not New York, not Vermont, but Texas. Wicker's Aug. 26 column, "A Chance in Texas," confided to his readers that "leading" Democrats in Texas "think that's possible." This was the historical equivalent of a headline in a newspaper from 1836: "Alamo forces confident of quick victory over Santa Anna."

As late as Oct. 12, 1984, Wicker was still promoting the Texas theory, telling his readers that if Mondale "is no more than 6 to 8 points behind President Reagan" in Texas the Friday before the election, the Mondale campaign was predicting a "comfortable victory" – "perhaps by as much as 53 percent." After spending a week doing the math on that, Wicker began writing columns with headlines like: "The Ugliest Campaign" – using the traditional definition of an "ugly" campaign as one the Democrats are losing.

Dan Rather's defenders would assure us that the media's refusal to believe any polls but the ones that say the Democrat is ahead is NOT evidence of reporters having an agenda. Instead, they say, the media just love a horse race! But like so many thoroughbred enthusiasts, the media are evidently not above trying to fix the occasional race.

Curiously, the media did not love a horse race in 1996, when Republicans ran Bob Dole (a certified, genuine war hero) against Bill Clinton (a certified, genuine draft dodger). The Times never discerned any "unease" or "danger ahead" for Clinton when polls consistently showed him ahead of Bob Dole, aka "Tax Collector for the Welfare State," as Newt Gingrich called Dole.

To the contrary, Times headlines in 1996 were exultant: "Clinton Shows That He, too, Has Support of Executives," and "Suburbs' Soccer Moms, Fleeing the GOP, Are Much Sought." Another 1996 Times headline said: "Dole Camp Looks to Coming Debates as a Last Chance." When will the Times be referring to the upcoming debates as Kerry's "last chance"? In my poll of me, I predict that after Bush beats Kerry in the debates, the Times will call it a draw.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D'epote Monsieur Kerry'

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Ann. Despite her abrasiveness, she conveys the thoughts I have. I thought it was great how she compared headlines in 1984 to this year. I'm a perpetual handringer, so I'll never be as confident as others are. But it looks good right now. When Republicans are competitive with the women's vote, they win elections!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still nervous, even though my faith says not to be. With Moore rallying votes, the Springsteen concert tour, the multimillions Soros injected into voter registration, and the new votepair.org makes me think this election could still be stolen.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay nervous, buffman, our survival may depend on it. And put out that cigarette--do you want the the snipers to see us? (I saw that in a movie.)

Seriously, *I* predict a double digit win for Bush, I have every confidence that will happen, but I will continue to have tons of nervous energy about it until the mission is accomplished. Meanwhile, I am proceeding with my plan of inviting Kerry voters over on Nov 1st for a little spiked Kool-Aid party, locking them up in my basement, and not letting them out until Nov.3rd. PROBLEM: I do not have a basement. PROBLEM: I do not actually know any Kerry voters, as I am very selective about my associates. PROBLEM: I think locking people up in my basement is probably illegal. NOTE TO SELF: Ask lawyer on tennis league* if it is against the law to lock people up, and if so, would Kerry voters be considered "people" under Texas law?

(*I belong to a tennis league at this posh country club. It is okay for a place that would allow me to join, if you know what I mean. I think they like my husband, and figure I am an annoyance they just have to learn to live with. I put up with them because I love tennis, and get all kinds of free medical and legal advice. I just work it into the conversation real sneaky like. I haven't been to the doctor in two years, and I beat two raps just last year, without ever actually paying anything.)

Saaayyyy....why is Ann Coulter's style "abrasive"??? Hmmm? Is it because she is a she and not a he, because if she was a he and NOT a she, he would be described as aggressive and hard-hitting? But because she IS a she and NOT a he, she is "abrasive"?

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a) abrasive
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d) she has a style?
e) undecided--I never read anything she writes

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimmymac...there's a blank blog page out there somewhere with your name on it Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kimmymac...there's a blank blog page out there somewhere with your name on it

I agree 100%, and if you decide to fill it, I'd sure like to know the URL. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimmymac writes:
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Why is Ann Coulter's style "abrasive"???

Is it because she is a she….


Hey girlfriend, don’t be playin the gender card, knowmsayin?

I have an acquaintance that thinks Coulter’s abrasive … but then he also thinks that Jesus was abrasive … and he hates Bush.

BTW, I too think it could be a double-digit win for Bush … but then it’s not over until Mrs. Edwards sings (an Imus line).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey you forgot one Kimmymac Wink

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e) undecided--I never read anything she writes
f) Kimmymac/Ann Coulter 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saaayyyy....why is Ann Coulter's style "abrasive"??? Hmmm? Is it because she is a she and not a he, because if she was a he and NOT a she, he would be described as aggressive and hard-hitting? But because she IS a she and NOT a he, she is "abrasive"?

POLL QUESTION:
Would you consider Kimmymac's style
a) abrasive
b) hard hitting
c) silly
d) she has a style?
e) undecided--I never read anything she writes

Click <<here>> to view current results.[/quote]

Are you joking?


MICHAEL LOVES KIMMYMAC Very Happy

OOHH! My wife poked my in arm with a big stick. LOL

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

You go girl!!

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Whenever someone calls Coulter abrasive I feel insulted -- she's my idol.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with being abrasive? I love the political pundits who are so extreme the cause people with in their own party to say "woh, wait a second". We need more people on both sides like this to keep the party in check. My favorite lines of hers are:
(just after 9/11)
"we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00
"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97

Those are just my favorites.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Coulter is abrasive. So are the Rocky Mountains.

Both are majestic, real, beautiful, and intensely American.
What's the problem?

Actually, someone else puts it even better. As Dan Cameron
Rodill over at www.gringoman.us puts it, "Coulter rides
and charges like a New England Valkyrie as horns blow in the
heavens . . . "
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