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poirierwilliam
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: WAR DOG THREATENS BANISHMENT FROM HIS KINGDOM |
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| WAR DOG THREATENS ME WITH BANNING BECAUSE HE CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, IF THIS OCCURS THEN I WILL WRITE THE FCC,AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORG THAT DEALS WITH THE INTERNET |
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ASPB
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: WAR DOG THREATENS BANISHMENT FROM HIS KINGDOM |
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| poirierwilliam wrote: | | WAR DOG THREATENS ME WITH BANNING BECAUSE HE CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, IF THIS OCCURS THEN I WILL WRITE THE FCC,AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORG THAT DEALS WITH THE INTERNET |
Actually it's not a threat. It's the truth. Try acting like an adult instead of pre-pubescent worm and it might not happen. Otherwise....Hasta la Vista, Cabron 
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War Dog
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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poirierwilliam, you have the right to voice your opinion as long as you keep your opinions and comments within the rules. Also, you have the right to write whomever you want!
It's your choice!
Woof!
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mikest
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: WAR DOG THREATENS BANISHMENT FROM HIS KINGDOM |
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| poirierwilliam wrote: | | WAR DOG THREATENS ME WITH BANNING BECAUSE HE CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, IF THIS OCCURS THEN I WILL WRITE THE FCC,AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORG THAT DEALS WITH THE INTERNET |
Chill dude. Write things with intelligence and with less caps. One liners that are bombastic and without thought are childish. Let people like Big Kahuna make the childish posts. His freepish "hitlery" rants hurt them more than you ever could. |
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nakona
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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You know...
In his profile, he claims to be a Surgeon.
Do any of these kids from DU have a legit profils, or are they all completely fake?
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ASPB
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: WAR DOG THREATENS BANISHMENT FROM HIS KINGDOM |
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| mikest wrote: | | poirierwilliam wrote: | | WAR DOG THREATENS ME WITH BANNING BECAUSE HE CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, IF THIS OCCURS THEN I WILL WRITE THE FCC,AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORG THAT DEALS WITH THE INTERNET |
Chill dude. Write things with intelligence and with less caps. One liners that are bombastic and without thought are childish. Let people like Big Kahuna make the childish posts. His freepish "hitlery" rants hurt them more than you ever could. |
Mikest,
Have you read Dick Morris's book "Rewriting History" about Senator Clinton? He worked with her for 20 years and has some very interesting insights into her character and past activities. Having read it, I think that BK's use of what you perceive to be a pejorative is actually somewhat complimentary compared to other possible analogies.
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mikest
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: WAR DOG THREATENS BANISHMENT FROM HIS KINGDOM |
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| ASPB wrote: | | mikest wrote: | | poirierwilliam wrote: | | WAR DOG THREATENS ME WITH BANNING BECAUSE HE CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, IF THIS OCCURS THEN I WILL WRITE THE FCC,AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORG THAT DEALS WITH THE INTERNET |
Chill dude. Write things with intelligence and with less caps. One liners that are bombastic and without thought are childish. Let people like Big Kahuna make the childish posts. His freepish "hitlery" rants hurt them more than you ever could. |
Mikest,
Have you read Dick Morris's book "Rewriting History" about Senator Clinton? He worked with her for 20 years and has some very interesting insights into her character and past activities. Having read it, I think that BK's use of what you perceive to be a perjorative is actually somewhat complimentary compared to other possible analogies. |
Morris' lies have been documented elsewhere. He was fired for hiring prostitutes so he could suck their toes and allowing them to listen in on his phone conversations with Clinton. For some reason he thinks he should not have been fired. Since so many people here question the motives of people like Richard Clarke I am surprised anyone would find Dick, the toe sucker, Morris credible. |
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Marine4life
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I thought it was understood that there would be no more trolling comments directed at a person, to belittle them. Just address the thread or go. I didn't see Kahuna's remarks here and attacks on him are not appropriate.
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ASPB
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: WAR DOG THREATENS BANISHMENT FROM HIS KINGDOM |
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| mikest wrote: | | ASPB wrote: | | mikest wrote: | | poirierwilliam wrote: | | WAR DOG THREATENS ME WITH BANNING BECAUSE HE CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH, IF THIS OCCURS THEN I WILL WRITE THE FCC,AND ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT ORG THAT DEALS WITH THE INTERNET |
Chill dude. Write things with intelligence and with less caps. One liners that are bombastic and without thought are childish. Let people like Big Kahuna make the childish posts. His freepish "hitlery" rants hurt them more than you ever could. |
Mikest,
Have you read Dick Morris's book "Rewriting History" about Senator Clinton? He worked with her for 20 years and has some very interesting insights into her character and past activities. Having read it, I think that BK's use of what you perceive to be a perjorative is actually somewhat complimentary compared to other possible analogies. |
Morris' lies have been documented elsewhere. He was fired for hiring prostitutes so he could suck their toes and allowing them to listen in on his phone conversations with Clinton. For some reason he thinks he should not have been fired. Since so many people here question the motives of people like Richard Clarke I am surprised anyone would find Dick, the toe sucker, Morris credible. |
Would you like to provide some documentation for your assertions Mikey!
The only prostitutes he hired were for Clinton as far as I've been able to determine from reliable sources.
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War Dog
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | He was fired for hiring prostitutes so he could suck their toes and allowing them to listen in on his phone conversations with Clinton. |
So the guy got fired for something that was "personal", and "his own business" and was "private", and after all, wasn't it just about sex?
Gee, I've heard those statements somewhere in the past! Hmm, wonder where it was? Oh, yeah, that was the defense mantra by the Democrats and Liberals for Former President Clinton!
So what the guy got fired for what the Clinton Administration believed that if the information got out, it would be bad for their 'PR' image! Hey, we all are kinky at one thing or another. That doesn't make Morris a liar, unknowledgeable about the Clinton's.
Nice try, but it doesn't work!
Woof!
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mikest
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Fasinating. Richard Clarke is not reliable because he wrote a book. Neither are Paul O'Neill or Anthony Zinni. But Morris is because he slams Clinton.
I don't personally care what his fetishes are, but his crediblilty has always been in question. Funny how you all hated him in the years he worked for Clinton but love him now. Do you still love David Brock? Read his media matters post about "Rewriting History." He tears apart the book quite easily.
And before you ask, I've always found Morris sleazy. |
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nakona
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| mikest wrote: | | Fasinating. Richard Clarke is not reliable because he wrote a book.... |
Richard Clarke is not reliable because he got caught making contradictory statements.
Dick Morris, whom I grant you is one weird mother****er, is one of the most brilliant political analysts of the last century.
My Grandfather once told me that the sign of a fair deal is when both parties are unhappy.
Along those same line, the fact that both the republican and democratic party machines have slammed Dick Morris for things that he wrote, ought to tell you something.
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mikest
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Here is some of the deconstruction of Rewriting History.
| Quote: | Morris: "Hillary Actually Compares Herself to Nelson Mandela": "On occasion, Hillary's ability to see herself as a martyr sacrificed for the greater good rises to the sublime. In Living History, Hillary actually compares herself with Nelson Mandela, somehow finding a moral equivalence between the Whitewater investigations and the decades of persecution Mandela suffered because of apartheid. During her May 1994 visit to South Africa, she describes how Mandela, at a speech, singled out 'three of his former jailers ... who had treated him with respect during his imprisonment. He asked them to stand so he could introduce them to the crowd.' ... Now, let's get some perspective here: Nelson Mandela endured decades in jail for the crime of trying to free his people. Hillary Clinton endured the scolding of the Wall Street Journal editorial page for her role in the White House Travel Office debacle. Hillary subsequently noted that if Mandela could forgive, then she could at least try to. So refined a sense of victimization is rare indeed." [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 61, italics in original, bold added]
The Truth: No, She Doesn't - and Morris Skipped Nearly 250 Pages of Clinton's Book to Paint Misleading Picture: Needless to say, Clinton didn't "actually compare herself to Nelson Mandela" -- she simply said that if Mandela could forgive people, she should try. That's not a comparison, or an effort to equate her tormentors with his, and it would take a deliberate misreading to reach the conclusion Morris reaches.
Also, in the Morris quote to the left, Morris is quoting and referring to page 235 of Living History -- until, that is, he writes "Hillary subsequently noted" -- at that point, he's skipped ahead nearly 250 pages, to page 480. By doing so, Morris is able to imply that Clinton's comment about trying to forgive is in reference to The Wall Street Journal and the "Travel Office debacle." It isn't: she is referring to her husband's relationship with Monica Lewinsky and Republican attacks on the Clintons' personal lives.
Morris: Doesn't Believe Clinton Was a Yankees Fan: "[A]s a lifelong New Yorker - and obsessive Yankees fan - myself, I know this much: In the hundreds of conversations I had with Bill and Hillary Clinton during our years working together, she never showed the slightest interest in what I now learn was our mutually favorite team." [Morris, Rewriting History, p.66]
The Truth: She Was: Picture 40 in Living History shows Hillary Clinton wearing a New York Yankees hat in 1992 -- eight years before her Senate campaign. And in 1994, The Washington Post reported, "Mrs. Clinton ... as a kid was a 'big-time' fan of the Chicago Cubs and New York Yankees and 'understudied' Ernie Banks and Mickey Mantle." [Clinton, Living History; Washington Post, 9/12/94]
Morris: Few Presidents Have Ever Lost a Campaign: "Only a handful of our presidents had ever lost a race before becoming president." [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 77]
The Truth: Nearly All Recent Presidents Have Suffered a Loss: Following is a partial list of U.S. presidents who had lost a campaign before becoming president, in reverse chronological order: George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson ... in other words, seven of the last eight -- and the exception (Gerald Ford) wasn't elected president.
Morris: Republicans Attacked Hillary Over Whitewater at 1992 Convention: "During the 1992 Republican National Convention, speaker after speaker lambasted Hillary, attacking her for Whitewater, her career conflicts of interest, and her seeming scorn for stay-at-home moms." [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 88]
The Truth: No, They Didn't: If speakers at the 1992 Republican National Convention mentioned Whitewater at all, it escaped the media's notice: a Nexis search for "Clinton and Whitewater" and covering the weeks during and after the convention yield no indication that any speaker mentioned the land deal. This shouldn't be surprising; the failed land deal had garnered very little media attention by the time of the convention.
Morris: "Much of the Clinton [Administration] Program Stalled in Congress": "Despite some successes, like ratification of NAFTA and the passage of a good, strong anti-crime bill that led directly to the subsequent drop in violent crime, much of the Clinton program stalled in Congress [during President Clinton's first year in office.]" [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 94-95]
The Truth: No, It Didn't: Mortimer Zuckerman wrote of Clinton's first year in office, "[M]ost Americans believe he can get things done. They believe it because it's true: Clinton's legislative program, which includes such major successes as reducing the deficit and passing NAFTA, rates as the most successful in the first year for a president since Dwight D. Eisenhower." [Zuckerman,US News & World Report, 1/31/94]
Morris: Morris's Brilliant Plan Not to Advertise in New York or DC Kept "Elitist" NY, DC Media Unaware of 1995 Ad Campaign: "[T]he president was afraid to advertise because he said it would look too political. ... 'We'll keep it secret,' I said. ... 'We won't advertise in New York City or in Washington, D.C. That's where all the reporters live,' I replied. ... Here we were, speaking to half the nation an average of three times a week for a year, and the New York-Washington media was so introverted and elitist that it never noticed!" [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 132-133]
The Truth: No, It Didn't -- Possibly Because Morris Talked to Reporters About It: "President Clinton effectively begins his re-election campaign on Tuesday, broadcasting $2.4 million worth of television advertisements in nearly two dozen markets nationwide. The White House spokesman, Michael D. McCurry, previewed the three 30-second advertisements -- all of which focus on crime -- for reporters at the White House today. ... The glossy ads, one of which features the President speaking in the Oval Office, were produced ... at the urging of Dick Morris?" [The New York Times, 6/27/95]
"After President Clinton left a Rose Garden ceremony to veto a Republican spending bill 10 days ago, he slipped into the White House to film what amounts to the first two Clinton television ads of the political season, directed by his new favorite adviser, Republican consultant Dick Morris." [Washington Post, 6/18/95]
"Presidential aides say the television campaign serves several purposes at once. ... 'Paid media is the only way that we can get the frequency of repetition of the message for those who don't normally follow politics in a nonpolitical season to get what's at stake, and that's really why we're running the ads,' said Dick Morris, the political strategist for Mr. Clinton who was the chief proponent of the television campaign." [The New York Times, 10/17/95]
Morris: There "Was Never Any Official Investigation" of Clinton's Commodities Trades: "In Living History, Hillary writes that her trading gains were 'examined ad infinitum after Bill became President,' ... just to be clear about the record: There never was any official investigation of her trades - only the work of enterprising investigative reporters." [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 152]
The Truth: Yes, There Was: Newsweek, 7/8/96: "House Republican leaders seem determined to keep the heat on Hillary Clinton. Moderate House Agriculture Committee chairman Pat Roberts last week requested records relating to Mrs. Clinton's 1978 and '79 commodities trades from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange -- but only under pressure, Hill sources say. At a leadership meeting in late June attended by Speaker Newt Gingrich, the sources say, Roberts was told he had 48 hours to open an investigation of the $100,000 windfall Mrs. Clinton made trading cattle futures -- 'or else.' A spokesman for Roberts said he launched the probe after a leadership meeting but denied he was initially reluctant to do so. The White House says it released the relevant records in 1994."
Morris: Any Competent Prosecutor Would Know Whitewater Was "Rotten": "The clear message: Regardless of the final, inconclusive verdict, any competent prosecutor would have smelled something rotten in Whitewater." [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 160]
The Truth: Three Prosecutors Had a Chance to Indict; Three Chose Not To: It's often said that a decent prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. Neither Robert Fiske nor Ken Starr nor Robert Ray thought they could indict either Clinton for anything in any way related to Whitewater.
Morris: Clintons Invited Gene Eriquez to State Dinner Because They Wrongly Thought He Was Hispanic: "At one White House state dinner honoring President Zedillo of Mexico in 1995, I was introduced to quite a number of prominent Hispanic and Mexican Americans and Mexican public officials. After dinner, I noticed our friends Gene and Marta Eriquez and went to talk to them. At the time Gene was the mayor of Danbury, Connecticut, the town next to ours ? Gene asked if I had arranged the invitation, but I hadn't. Gene laughed. 'I think they must think I'm Hispanic,' he said. 'That happens a lot with my name.'" [Morris, Rewriting History, p. 231]
The Truth: Eriquez Wasn't On Guest List: While Morris was on the guest list for the 1995 state dinner honoring President Zedillo, Eriquez is not. Nor is anyone with a name resembling his. Nor is anyone identified as mayor of Danbury, Connecticut. [AP, 10/11/95; The Washington Times, 10/11/95; The Washington Post, 10/11/95] |
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War Dog
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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mikest, you are making a mountain out of a anthill. You've made your point. No need for long quotes from Dick Morris's book. You don't believe him, and others here do. It's no big deal, let's move on. Nobody is going to change their minds over this believe/don't believe Dick Morris issue.
From now on, let's try and limit posted quotes to two or three paragraphs, and provide a link to where you got it from.
Woof!
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mikest
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| War Dog wrote: | mikest, you are making a mountain out of a anthill. You've made your point. No need for long quotes from Dick Morris's book. You don't believe him, and others here do. It's no big deal, let's move on. Nobody is going to change their minds over this believe/don't believe Dick Morris issue.
From now on, let's try and limit posted quotes to two or three paragraphs, and provide a link to where you got it from.
Woof! |
Actually, my point was not really made because we went off on another tangent. My main point was rally that poirierwilliam needs to chill. But I will aquiesse(sp?) to your wishes. |
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