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[Misty]

Bend over, Mr. Kerry. Some people here want to check you out!!!


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Misty
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Dad was in the Navy Pacific Fleet
Brother was on the USS Regulus - Vietnam
Husband was AirForce 3rd (34th) Tactical Fighter Wing - Security Police Bien Hoa Vietnam

[Tad Belknap]

bullet sized frag.....hmmmmmmm.....where was Kerry 22 Nov 1963 ?
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[army72]

Yes, Kerry is trying yet again to convince the world that he is a hero. Watch closely as the the splinter he picked up on Dec 2 turns into an RPG. More to come from the exciting adventures of Walter Middy... see medals flying at incredible speeds as Kerry the hero tells his wonderous tales of how others ran as he alone stood before the NVA and VC taking hit after hit while saving numerous less heroic men against all odds. I gotta quit, this is making me sick!!!!
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[fortdixlover]

[Jerald L. Parsoneault]

I'm sorry but I don't get something. If Kerry had a bullet in his leg why didn't Navy doctors remove it?

We are not talking the civil war here where Army doctors may have had dozens of wounded lined up outside their tent forcing them to bypass some of the injured -- then a hundred years later Kerry can't get a bullet removed? Come on.

Nalt

[Denis]

[Hammer2]

That is the point, we don't know anything about the size and shape of the fragments in Kerry's thigh.

For a physician to not give a technical description is very strange. Doctors are much more clinical in their descriptions of things, they must be if they expect to communicate exact information about a patient's medical condition to another medical professional. It is possible the doctor was "talking down" to the reporter in language he would understand, if so an astute investigator should ask the doctor to give an exact description.
The doctors description of "One piece is shaped like a bullet and the other slightly smaller" seems intentionally vague.

I would have expected a description something like: "There were two fragments noted on the x-ray. The first was cylindrical in shape and approximately 10mm long by 3mm in diameter. The second fragment was also cylindrical and 8mm long by 3mm in diameter"
Or it could have been: " There were two fragments on the x-ray. The larger was an irregular trapezoid roughly 4mm long by 6mm wide and 2mm thick. The second is also an irregular trapezoid 3mm long by 5mm wide and 2mm thick."

I used the above descriptions to give everyone and idea of what you should expect if the fragments were from a US M-79 grenade or a VC B-40.
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[Stevie]

[quote="fortdixlover
....and now I remember what Dark Shadows character Mr. Kerry reminds me of (especially with his coiffure)...

David Selby as Quentin Collins' werewolf!



-- FDL[/quote]


David Selby and the character Angelique were my favorite! drats! your right - kerry does resemble Selby's character!

and Kerry says he was at Yale!!!! I do seem to remember it was filmed at or around Tarreytown? That's back east somewhere...
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
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[Denis]

[Jerald L. Parsoneault]

Denis,

Thanks for your excellent clarification. . . .but perhaps I was a little too "tongue in cheek." The point I intended to make point was: if it were really a bullet in Kerry it would have been removed.

I recall vividly growing up with Gunsmoke and Doc Adams. Old Doc would always dig in the wound with forcepts until he pulled out the bullet! He would drop it in a tin cup with a great clank and announce that Matt Dillon would recover, much to Kitty and Chester's relief.

Nalt

[skygod325]

Hello All,

Some great responses here. I am a RN who specializes in Emergency and Trauma care. I have been a RN for over 12 years. (please dont ask me how I went from airborne infantry to RN..long story) Firstly we know that it is NOT a bullet in JK's leg. Secondly, I have never heard a doctor use the "its about the size of" Granted the reporter may have been using literary license, but we may never know. I would question Doctor Doyle's credentials and ask when is the last time he has worked clinically (if ever). Examples of how silly this sounds.

"Guy has been shot in the belly and its the size of a small ball and its bleeding all over the place"
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"23yo male with 3cm GSW to abd with uncontrolled bleeding"

I report to trauma surgeons all the time before they even see the patient. If I am not accurate and precise in my descriptions of the patients wounds and condition. I would surely get fired on the spot.
Also wouldn't the naval or army surgeons remove a object that is so close to the femoral artery? The risk of infection and the risk of the object moving and damaging tissue would outweigh the surgical risk of extracting the foriegn body..Especially if they thought it to be a bullet!
Regardless that he was never hospitalized for this wound. At a bare mininium he should have at least been given IV antibiotics and a tetanus shot.
It never ceases to amaze me the dribble that is put out by his campaign.
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[fb274]

Wonder if Kerry wrote the medical release--------didn't I read that he authored most of the after action reports.

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