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jim_nyc
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul R. wrote:
I also wish Bush would nail Kerry on "rush to war". WTH? The war was legally and morally back "on" the first time Saddam seriously broke a resolution after the 1st Gulf war.

A world in which defeated aggressor nations are allowed to get away with stuff the way Saddam was allowed to for over a decade is a world in a heap of trouble...


This is why I like Bush....he has established that when we say a missle is on the way....it's comin.
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dmackto
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's

total $1570
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diane in IL
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great debate. GW was definately more himself and up to his true potential tonight. There were a few "missed opportunities" on a few rebuttals, but the surrogates can drive those points home later. I still think that he needs to hang the UN, France, Germany, and Russia out to dry but I think he made a tactical decision to take the high road, even if it costs him the presidency. After all, he still has a country to run. I thought that as the debate progressed he actually warmed up and continued to improve. He started out a little rusty. I'm surprised that JFingK is still talking about our "alliances" under the circumstances. I think that was the kiss of death for him tonight. That seems to be his plan for everything... and I think the average American really has no interest in bringing the likes of France in to our fold.

diane in IL
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vickie
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:19 am    Post subject: I was yelling at the TV Reply with quote

I was yelling at the TV... Bush should have nailed him!

At the last question, Kerry repeated his "I will not cede the security... I will not give any country a veto... He left out the GLOBAL test!

Bush should have turned and said. "Ladies and gentleman, even since our last debate, Mr. Kerry has changed his postion. Last week he wanted America's defense to be submitted to a 'global test'. Well the 'gobal test' did not play well in Peoria or America. So now he has changed his postion again to suit the political climate."
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dmackto
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmackto wrote:
Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)

Total $1605
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ashter
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Kerry say he would support Govt funding for low income females wanting abortion?

Is there a transcript out there yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

news just said explosion at a voting spot in Afghanistan. Praying for those folks.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rdtf wrote:
news just said explosion at a voting spot in Afghanistan. Praying for those folks.


Amen. Lets pray there was no loss of life and that the Afgans get angry rather than terrorized.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashter wrote:
Did Kerry say he would support Govt funding for low income females wanting abortion?

Is there a transcript out there yet?


yes - fox, cnn have links on home pages
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashter wrote:
Did Kerry say he would support Govt funding for low income females wanting abortion?

Is there a transcript out there yet?


He did say that.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG. The ostric just gave sKerry an A and Dubya a D. Do these Liberal talking heads ever get their A$$es out of sKerry posteirer?

Ostric needs a couple more cartons of smokes just to make her voice more agravating
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: $1.00 for "I have a plan..." Reply with quote

pneal wrote:
We're paying $1.00 for every time Kerry starts with, "I have a plan..." then says NOTHING. Kerry's only plans, are Bush's plans, that Kerry simply tries to pass off as his own. "I have a plan...", seems to be his favorite opener. I better get to countin'. Ouch!!!!

I count 32, so lets make it an even $35.00, 'cause I'm sure he had at least 3 more in him. Cool


I just sent mine in via the online method. I hope that was right? I had to do it twice since there was no $35.00 option. This will be credited to this thread fund raiser, right?

You people are so smart and I'm proud to be involved with each and every one of you.
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Paul R.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim_nyc wrote:
neverforget wrote:
BTW, I think that President Bush not identifying France, Germany, and Russia explicitly regarding the bribing they did through the UN is what a president has to do. Naming them in a debate is not diplomatically appropriate. In a way, it would be doing what Kerry did to Prime Minister Allawi. Those things need to be taken care of within the office of the presidency, not as campaign fodder. The whole thing needs to play out a little longer, anyway. It is the difference between a leader and a demogogue and populist like Kerry.


That's a very good point.


Unfortunately, that is true. Not that Kerry wouldn't do it in a second if it suited his political ambitions. But... maybe Bush could have pointed out that many thousands of Iraqi children were dying because of the corruption of the oil for food program, because it had become an oil for weapons and palaces program, instead. (I heard 5000 a month, somewhere, but I don't know if that is accurate.)

Also, no reason the information can't be distributed indirectly (ie., not from the White House), with references to "Kerry's would be allies."

Anybody know if there is a listing of some of the more impressive weapons Saddam was able to procure, despite the embargo, in the last 5 years? I know Saddam had the Roland missiles, and other missile parts. Also, Knighthawk said on another thread he saw a 1999 & a 2000 French Mirage fighter in a Iraqi hangar near Tikrit. (He's trying to find out if anyone he knows has pics.)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry. I did $50 yesterday. Does that count?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe this - I think Greta just said viewers have chosen sKerry as the winner tonight...shouldn't all liberals jamming FOX polls be denied no entry, since we all know they wouldn't dare watch that channel! Mad
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