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BrianC PO2
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War Dog Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Post resended!
See post made later!
Woof! _________________ "When people are in trouble, they call the cops.
When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit."
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marinedad Guest
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Again I am not taking a stand on either side but John Kerry was not the only person to "go to the front of the line" All of you have to remember there are security issues when a presidential nominee visits anyplace. Again, I ask that during a time of mourning people respect all individuals. I think that by throwing insults during this time, it only makes the people of this website look childish. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: |
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And you have to remember, too, that in this case, he's damned if he does or damned if he doesn't.
I don't think anyone detests John F'n Kerry more than I do, but I can't find any fault with this visitation.
I'll gladly add anything and everything to my list of grudges against this chameleon, but if he hadn't visited, it would have been commented upon negatively, too.
He has a lot to make up to President Reagan. As recently as a year ago, he said he was "proud" to have stood against the President. He fought the President at every turn and never did understand exactly what this great President accomplished in his eight years.
That he is "proud" of having been on the other side of the fence is testament, alone, to Kerry's lack of good judgement. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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BrianC PO2
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: |
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MarineDad,
That is precisely the reason that Kerry should have stayed away.
It's well known that President Reagan's body will be lying in state at the Capitol Rotunda, and member of Congress will have special viewing times set aside for them as a group.
It's been reported that Kerry spent 20 minutes there. It's in very bad taste for him to show up and get the royalty treatment. It's even worse in terms of the appearance it gives. This is the sort of behavior I'd have expected to see from a junior high school class campaign.
By contrast, you will note that President Bush elected not to attend the university graduation ceremonies of both of his daughters, and by staying away, he allowed the other students and their families to enjoy the day and not have the added hassle of all the security.
It's just my opinion, but I think Kerry's showing up there was in very bad taste, and it just goes to show how elitist he is. |
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BrianC PO2
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:13 am Post subject: |
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And speaking of bad taste:
CLINTON DISAPPOINTMENT: LEFT OFF FUNERAL SPEAKERS LIST
Former President Bill Clinton has privately expressed anger he has apparently been left off the speakers list of Friday's Reagan State Funeral, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
"President Clinton really held out all hope the funeral would be a nonpartisan event, like Nixon's was," a top Clinton source said on Tuesday morning. "He's angry and disappointed neither he nor President Carter have been asked to speak, as of yet."
The top source says Clinton has been critical that both Bush presidents will address the crowd gathered at National Cathedral.
Nixon's vice president Gerald Ford did not speak at Nixon's funeral.
Clinton's inner circle is convinced Nancy Reagan has personally shut out Clinton from any high-profile participation.
"It is a state funeral, using tax dollars," the top Clinton insider explained.
(more at):
http://www.drudgereport.com/rr1.htm |
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BrianC PO2
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:17 am Post subject: |
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By the way, it's also being reported that Kerry arrived with his own photographers so he could be sure to get all the hype necessary.
Another special exception made for him... no other photography was allowed by people who were there to pay their respects.
He's shameless. |
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War Dog Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040608/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_15&printer=1
YahooNews
Tue Jun 8, 5:21 PM ET
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
Quote: | John Kerry (news - web sites) paused for a moment of silent reflection before the flag-draped casket of former President Reagan on Tuesday, a brief appearance in a national spotlight that suddenly has shifted from politics and the Democratic presidential candidate.
Head bowed, eyes closed and hands clasped in front, the Massachusetts senator stood for about a minute to pay his respects to Reagan, the Republican icon who died Saturday and whose body lay in repose at the presidential library.
Kerry, a Roman Catholic, made the sign of the cross and quietly recited the accompanying prayer before departing.
Like other dignitaries, Kerry did not have to wait hours with tens of thousands of mourners; an exception was made for the candidate and his visit lasted about 20 minutes. |
I resend my earlier post and 'sit' corrected!
Woof! _________________ "When people are in trouble, they call the cops.
When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit." |
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Marine4life Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: |
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I am impressed at how the media has portrayed Bush as emulating Mr. Reagan in many way's. President Bush has chosen a hell of a role model. Say's a lot when his father was also CIC, that Bush shows that much respect for President Reagan. This country will be better served to keep President Reagan's profound leadership alive long after he is gone. As for Clinton on speaking, well Mr. Reagan deeply loved his wife and was an Honorable man, both professionally and at home. Clinton is just not in his league, Carter on the otherhand is Honorable in his own way, he just didn't have what it takes to be CIC. In his final call he needs to be uligized by his friend's, not the political correctness of certain individuals for their own political gain. Yes tax dollars pay for it, but I want my money to be spent sending him off in a respectful manner in a funneral fit for a King, not politics. _________________ Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes. |
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BrianC PO2
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I am impressed at how the media has portrayed Bush as emulating Mr. Reagan in many way's.
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I am suspicious of it. Very soon we'll see that the media will use those comparisons against President Bush. My outlook is that they'll slam the President for "daring" to compare himself to President Reagan (even though it's the media that is doing the comparison).
Trust me, the media made plenty of attacks on President Reagan when he was in office. |
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Marine4life Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: |
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People loved Ronald Reagan and any attempts to slam him after his death will be political suicide for the dems. The report that I saw layed out the direct similarities, tax cuts, firm stand on terrorists, faith, standing by exactly what he say's he will do, not what the polls say, speaking directly to the people, humor even at himself etc., not asking the UN for permission do defend this country. Remember the pre-emptive strike on a certain Presidential compound which Kerry abmonished him for. Also Reagan didn't ask Congress for permission to tell Iran that our hostages had better be on American soil before he is inagurated or they will pay dearly. Maybe it's just me but I see direct similarities. Everything that Bush is being dogged for is what made Reagan great. People will reflect now on the Reagan years and what he accomplished for this country and the world, which will only help Bush in the long run. Bush said it himself, " I will not ask anyones permission to defend this great country". Semper Fi. _________________ Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes. |
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LewWaters Admin
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | People loved Ronald Reagan and any attempts to slam him after his death will be political suicide for the dems |
Hold on to your hats, the media is already starting to slam Mr. Reagan. They rarely had anything nice to saya bout him when he was President and their accolades earlier this week took me by surprise. Guess it's back to business as usual, bash Republicans. |
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BrianC PO2
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Maybe it's just me but I see direct similarities. Everything that Bush is being dogged for is what made Reagan great.
--Marine4life
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We are in agreement here - I see some very close similarities. But I don't trust the Lamestream, Liberal media. They will attack President Bush(and they have been all along) on the same lines that they attacked President Reagan.
Keep your powder dry, my friends, it's gonna be a tough ride. The media is siding with Kerry all the way, in spite of the fact that they've little to say about him that's good. |
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nakona Lieutenant
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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In all fairness, I can't see how Kerry could have stayed away.
I also understand him cutting the line. There are security considerations involved, and lets be honest... he IS a Senator, and RHIP.
The part that bothers ME is that he showed up with his own photographers, proving that his visit wasn't about paying respects, it was about how he could manipulate the event for his own benefit. _________________ 13F20P |
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Marine4life Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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He could have made a statement, such as " I fought against Reagan on many issues, but feel honored to have known him" or something to that effect. But nooo he choses to lie and portray himself as his friend for political gain only. He should have stayed away instead of dishonoring him. Semper Fi. _________________ Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes. |
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