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ArmyMedicsMom LCDR
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 430
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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A bunch of the MSM are saying that President Bush was yelling, especially at Charlie.
My kids used to try to pull this on me all the time. Mom, quit yelling at me.
And I would say calmly...this is talking in a firm steady voice, not yelling and THIIS IS YEELLLLING!!!!
I am so sick of the spin. |
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baldeagl PO3
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Put me down for $100. I just donated. _________________ antimedia
USN OST-6 68-74
http://antimedia.blogspot.com/ |
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jim_nyc Seaman
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 198
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Man I hate to sound like a whiner but it has never been more obvious that the media are conspiring to bring down this president.
Slanted fact checking. Bias in choosing what to focus on. Letting Kerry's Senate record go unchecked or even commented on. SBVT blackout and phony documents about Bush TANG service.
I thought Bush had a great debate. I appreciate animated, passionate leaders who appear human and real. Not robotic sloganeers. |
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baldeagl PO3
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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MrJapan wrote: | Quote: | Domestic Issue.........Jobs:
You'll keep hearing both sides boaster about how many jobs were lost, or gained in the past 4 years, but you'll rarely hear the TRUTH about these numbers. |
I am wondering where Kerry came up with the numbers of 'lost' jobs compaired to Bush's gained jobs... any NON-biased web sited out there with real numbers? |
Go to my blog. I've blogged two posts recently about the economy. The fact is, Bush has now gained jobs. Furthermore, the economy is now better than it ever was under Clinton. You won't hear that on the news.
Here's a sample:
The economy has added more than 1.5 million payroll jobs over the past year and nearly 2 million jobs on the household survey. Most indicators point towards continued growth. Output is booming, the manufacturing outlook is positive, business confidence is high, and productivity continues to set records. Even such favorites among economic pessimists like data on long-term unemployment, manufacturing employment, and worker discouragement are showing marked improvement. Unfortunately for the pessimists, these are the facts that frame the debate on the economy today. _________________ antimedia
USN OST-6 68-74
http://antimedia.blogspot.com/
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dmackto Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 719 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
Total $1855 |
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jataylor11 Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 856 Location: Woodbridge, Virginia
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Paul R. wrote: | factcheck.org says Bush's argument is inflated. Possibly true, but what is not said is that ultimately, all taxes are borne primarily by the middle class, regardless of who pays 'em on surface inspection. The question is, which policies result in the best economic situation for the most people, in the long run.
This is probably not the forum for THAT discussion, however! |
Not true --- the % breakdown is that the top 20% of income earners pay approximately 80% of the taxes, the bottom 20% pay almost zero, and the middle 60% of wage earners pay roughly 20% of the taxes --- The reason the top 10-20% income earners received tax refunds of $89 billion is because this group of people earned income in the trillions and paid taxes in the hundreds of billions --- Most people cannot even comprehend this amounts -- it is meaningless
When you speak in raw dollars it clouds the issue --- the result is that most people saw their taxes drop 10-15% -- So if you make 30,000 your taxes were 5,000 and now they are 4,250 --- that is $750. That is 750 extra in your pocket of the $30,000 you made.
When you try to compare that to someone who made $300,000 -- they got $7500 back in your pocket --- now you compare your $750 to their $7500 and think you were cheated THIS IS A BOGUS COMPARISON --- You can't refuse to look at why that person makes 10 times what you do --think about their education, their effort, their experience --- no one wants to look at why people make more money than them because then they would have accept responsibility for choices made and stop resenting people who made other choices and therefore earn more income. Envy and greed, envy and greed both are sins |
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minnie presley Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: debate |
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what is with msm they are saying kerry won, also the online polls which are rigged anyhow, but they are using them, to I thought kery came accross as insincere and lying, how come they don't see it, I have e-mailed fox about this, alsoI am not sure which channel, after the debate, 4 independants were interview and they said that they now would vote for bush. thank god my birth country australia voted howard back in, this gives me hope, now we need to get behind bush for total victory |
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pegm Seaman Recruit
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: debate |
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I just read this thread, and I tought our President did a great job. I just get so darned tired of kerry's lies. I don't know how many times he called the President a liar, not by that specific word, but alluding to it. If I could have reached through the screen I would have slapped him. Anyway, put me in for $25. It will come snail mail I'm afraid. |
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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kmudd wrote: | Karl Rove made a great point ,if Kerry had his way Saddam would not only still be in power but he would still be in Kuwait and threathing Saudi Arabia . |
Naaww. Saddam wouldn't be threatening Saudi Arabia any more. By now he'd be threatening Yemen at the least, and maybe the borders of Tanzania. _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
Essayons!
Fight Build and Destroy |
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dmackto Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 719 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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dmackto wrote: | Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
pegm is in for $25
Total $1880 |
So close to $2000.00! |
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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dmackto wrote: | dmackto wrote: | Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
pegm is in for $25
Total $1880 |
So close to $2000.00! |
Sorry for the inconvenience. But Iwore myself out early last night. Too much cheering And I gave my monthly allocation about a week ago. Now I wake up and see how you guys have embarassed me. Please. Can I buy my way onto the list of honor with another Twenty-spot? Brings us up to an even $1900. How about it? _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
Essayons!
Fight Build and Destroy |
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dusty Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1264 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I've been searching for an hour. Anyone have a link to a transcript from this debate?
Please.
Dusty |
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dmackto Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 719 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Running Total:
Me#1You#10 is in for $100
Nutso is in for $25
Dmackto is in for $25
Chance is in for $10
hleone is in for $50
minnie presley is in for $20
neverforget is in for $50
Ord is in for $25
ashter is in for $50
Beatrice1000 is in for $100
ondryland is in for $25
ILOVETHEUSA is in for $25
Tacan70UDN is in for $50
Rdtf is in for $25
Kmudd is in for $10
wirebiter is in for $25
Cheyenne is in for $50
my mom is in for $10
dmackto is in for $25
Endaar is in for $50
Steve Z is in for $50
ArmyMedicsMom is in for $25
Proud of my VietVet Dad! $250
Daniel J. Hutchison is in for $50
neverforget is in for $50 more
1AD is in for $50
my roommate is in for $10
LeeWaters is in for $50
Ord33 is in for $25
reconflyer is in for $25
2ndamendsis and Gary are in for $50
ProudDaughterofVet is in for $25
Jim NYC is in for $50
wwIIvetsdaughter is in for $25
I am in for $7 more "plan" dollars
Rdtf is in for another $50 because he loves Dubya
I'm in for another $3 because the system doesnt take 7's
pneal is in for $35 (i almost missed that one)
MissouriVeteransDaughter is in for $10
1AD is in for another $10 and gives up on his wife not finding out
stevie is in for $10 for bad Kerry hair
wednesdaychild is in for $10
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the fist/thumb point-jabs
Beatrice is in for $25 for ALL the times he stuck his tongue out
hleone is in for an additional $50 in celebration
ashter is in for $10 more
baldeagl is in for $100 woot
pegm is in for $25
Rurik is in for $20
Total $1900
Only $100 more to $2,000.00! |
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ord33 Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio
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ArmybratNavywife Ensign
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Count me in for $20......
You guys need to win back Ohio. I do not want to have Lurch as dh's CiC.... |
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