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Weaponeer Seaman Recruit
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:10 am Post subject: New Spin comparing Kerry to Audie Murphy |
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I was channel surfing today and hit Headliners and legends and they were talking about how great Kerry was and made a DIRECT comparison of Kerry's 4 month duty and the American Hero Audie Murphy.
I was so p*ssed that Kerry's name was even mentioned in the same sentence as Audie Murphy, but to state that Kerry was another Audie Murphy degrades every medal of honor winner since WWII.
I'm an 18 year Vet and a combat vet of Gulf War 1 and I have always respected the medal of honor winners, but to compare Kerry to Audie Murphy is more than lying.... it's a statement of disrespect to REAL hero's |
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Aristotle The Hun PO1
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Audie Murphy died tragically in an airplane accident in 1971. I can hear him spinning in his grave now.
I we could count on real heros returning to haunt Kerry they would need to stand in line. I can not imagine any MOH winner suporting Kerry. I know some that are against Kerry, but I don't know any who support him, do you?
Sam _________________ Deportè Monsieur Kerrè |
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kate Admin
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 1891 Location: Upstate, New York
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:36 am Post subject: |
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On this show?
MSNBC
Headliners & Legends
with Matt Lauer
headliners@msnbc.com
maybe Matt Lauer needs a teensy education, of sorts _________________ .
one of..... We The People |
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Aristotle The Hun PO1
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Kate.
Mail on the way.
Sam _________________ Deportè Monsieur Kerrè |
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William Seaman Recruit
Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 37 Location: Northcoast CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Kerry = Audie Murphy?
Read Murphy's MOH citation here: http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/moh1.htm (click World War II (M-S), scroll to Murphy)
Also read the "Stolen Honor" POWs' impressive list of decorations here: http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/meet-pows.asp
Jeez... Kerry's a light-weight even IF he had earned those medals, rather than finagling them.
What an insult to real heros!!!
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one more captins mast LCDR
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 438 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:07 am Post subject: Kerry "wrote" in 21 days I wrote my medals up. |
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Why , my fingers had the 'cramps" from so much typing,
you should have seen my finger tips, blood everywhere.
After I got back to "the world" I had to have new ones fitted>
Even today I still wake up in the middle of the nite "writting my
self up for a new award." Its scary as hell.
John _________________ the strange mr aj |
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God and Country PO3
Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 274 Location: God's country
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Matt Lauer is a very sick man comparing Traitor Kerry to Audie Murphy.
The traitor is not even good enough to kissed Audie Murphy's behind.
_________________ Conservative and proud |
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The Balloon Artist PO3
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:39 am Post subject: |
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For the number medals Audie Murphy won he was probably carried out of the theater of war on a stretcher at least once.
John Kerry simply exited his "war theater" stage left. _________________ What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five. |
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arkadyfolkner PO3
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 271
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Disgusting.
This is the one thing that would make the 'Singing Cowboy' stop singing... |
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azpatriot Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Citation For Medal of Honor Recipient Audie L. Murphy
Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army, Company B, 15th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division.
Place and date: Near Holtzwihr France, 26 January 1945.
Entered service at: Dallas, Tex. Birth: Hunt County, near Kingston, Tex.
G.O. No.65, 9 August 1945.
CITATION: 2d Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by 6 tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to prepared positions in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, 1 of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy's indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy's objective.
Audie Murphy
Army Legend
by John Silva
Audie Murphy was born on June 20, 1924 near Kingston, Texas. However, some accounts place his actual birthdate in 1925. The son of poor sharecroppers, Audie was one of 12 children, only 9 of whom survived to adulthood. Life in the Murphy household was poor and very hard. Growing up, Audie picked cotton and became very skilled with a rifle to hunt small game to help feed the family.
When he was 12, Audie's father left the family to find work and at age 16, Audie's mother died, leaving him effectively orphaned and needing to take care of his younger siblings. When the United States declared war in December of 1941, Audie rushed to enlist. He first attempted to join the Marines. He was turned away for being too small. Audie in 1941 was 5' 5" tall and weighed only 110 lbs. Undeterred, he attempted to join the Army Paratroopers and was again turned away. Finally, Audie enlisted in the Regular Army as an infantryman. He signed the papers a few days after his 18th birthday. This is significant since it is highly possible that Audie was only 17 at the time and had somehow altered his birth certificate in order to serve.
Audie went through recruit training at Camp Wolters, Texas. Upon completion of Basic, he went through Advanced Infantry Training at Fort Meade, Maryland. Finally, Audie was shipped overseas where he joined B Company, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division which was operating in North Africa. He arrived in February of 1943. Audie saw little action in N. Africa as the war there was in the mopping up phase. 5 months later, Audie received his baptism of fire as he landed in Sicily on July 10, 1943. Audie's captain did his best to keep the small soldier from fighting by making him a runner. Audie however had other plans and he slipped off to join any patrol he could. Audie soon distinguished himself under fire as a resourceful and effective soldier. Finally the Captain gave up and promoted Audie to Corporal.
Audie's next action was in the invasion of Salerno on the Italian mainland. Here Audie again excelled as a soldier. While leading a night patrol, Audie and his men ran into a group of German soldiers. After fighting their way out of an ambush, they took cover in a rock quarry. The German sent a squad of soldiers in to get them out but were stopped by intense machine gun and rifle fire. Three of the Germans were killed and several more captured. For his actions at Salerno, Audie was promoted to Sergeant.
Audie missed the next invasion at Anzio due to a serious attack of malaria. Audie soon recovered and rejoined his unit just in time for some of the fiercest fighting of the war. For three days the Americans fought to escape their beachhead but were unsuccessful. The situation deteriorated to a stalemate with neither side gaining. This went on for months and the soldiers dug in for the long haul. Audie volunteered for numerous patrols and his unit came under artillery fire almost every night. Audie was soon evacuated from the front with another severe attack of malaria. Within 10 days he was back at the front. Soon after the unit was pulled out for a short rest. Audie was offered a battlefield commission to 2nd Lieutenant. Audie, not wanting to leave his unit, refused the promotion.
Once back at the front, Audie quickly surveyed his area and discovered that there was only one route the enemy armor could pass through. Audie heavily mined the area. When the Germans attacked, the lead tank hit a mine and blocked the road completely. The Germans withdrew but Audie wanted to ensure that they could not move the damaged tank. Taking a small patrol forward, Audie ordered them to cover him while he approached the tank. He first threw two Molotov cocktails at the tank. Neither ignited. A grenade he tossed inside was ineffective. The Germans guarding the tank began firing at him. Audie next used rifle grenades and finally managed to knock the tank treads off one side. For this action, Audie was awarded the Bronze Star.
On May 23, the 3rd Division finally broke out of the Anzio beachhead. After fighting their way to Rome, the Division was then ordered to a rear area for amphibious training. On august 15, 1944, the Division made yet another landing, this time in Southern France. Three hours after landing, Audie's battalion was tasked with capturing an enemy artillery position high up on a ridge. The men of 1st Battalion slowly advanced up the slope, struggling all the way. As they reached the top, the Germans opened fire with deadly results. Every avenue of approach was covered by machine guns. Audie, whose platoon had been in the rear of the lines, moved forward, out of the line of ambush, and took stock of the situation. Half the unit was pinned down, the other half was being decimated by enemy fire. Audie could not reach the enemy positions with grenades and his carbine was ineffective, Slowly, he crawled down the slop and reached the heavy weapons platoon.
Commandeering a .30 cal machine gun, Audie crawled back up the slope. Setting up the gun, Audie opened fire and quickly killed two Germans. With only one belt of ammunition, Audie used short bursts and forced the German gunners to cease firing and duck down. Once out of ammunition, Audie and another soldier, Private Lattie Tipton, charged the first enemy position and quickly silenced it. As they prepared to charge the next position, Tipton noticed a German soldier waving a white flag. Standing up to take the soldier prisoner, Tipton was killed by a single rifle bullet. Audie was enraged by this act and picked up the German machine gun. He first charged one enemy position with grenades an the gun and killed both enemy soldiers in it. He charged several more positions and killed all of the soldiers within them. When it was over, they discovered that the artillery they had been sent to silence was a fake. They had been suckered into an ambush. For his actions, Audie was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.
As the 3rd Division continued their advance, Audie was wounded in the heel by a shell fragment. He received the Purple Heart and spent two weeks in an Evac hospital. After returning to his unit, they were ambushed while on patrol. Audie, who crawled out of the ambush zone, charged the enemy position and using two hand grenades, silenced it. For this action, which saved the lives of this patrol, Audie was awarded the Silver Star. Several days later, his platoon was ambushed again and several more soldiers were killed. Audie grabbed a radio and crawled forward to where he could see the enemy position. While under intense fire, Audie called in mortar and artillery fire on the Germans. Official Army records indicate the indirect fire killed 15 and wounded 35 enemy soldiers. For this, Audie received his second Silver Star, three days after earning his first.
Several days later, Audie was ordered to the 15th Regiment's headquarters. Once there he was discharged from the Army as a Sergeant and then commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant. With his new rank, Audie returned to his platoon, this time to command it. On October 26, 1944 Audie was wounded again, this time in the hip by a sniper's bullet. He was evacuated to a hospital and spent the next 3 months recuperating. Rejoining his unit in January, 1945, Audie led his men against the German stronghold at Holtzwihr. For three days they attacked the fortress with no success. Soon, Audie was the only officer left alive. He took command of the company and organized the next assault. As they waited in the snow for the order to attack, 6 German tanks and 250 Infantrymen approached from Holtzwihr. Being greatly outnumbered, Audie ordered his men to pull back. Audie called in artillery on the approaching enemy but did not stop them.
Audie decided to take action. Near his position was a burning tank destroyer. Audie climbed on top, and turned the machine gun on the approaching Germans. As Audie fired from the burning tank, the artillery began to land in earnest and the German advance faltered. For almost an hour, Audie continued to lay down fire on the Germans. When he ran out of ammunition, he dropped into the snow and discovered he had been wounded, his third, in the leg. Enemy soldiers lay dead just 10 yards from the tank destroyer. For this daring feat, Audie was recommended for and received the Medal of Honor. His citation reads:
Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army, Company B 1 5th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Holtzwihr France, 26 January 1945. Entered service at: Dallas, Tex. Birth: Hunt County, near Kingston, Tex. G.O. No.. 65, 9 August 1945. Citation 2d Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by 6 tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to prepared positions in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, 1 of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy's indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy's objective.
Audie was removed to a rear area and made a liaison officer. he was promoted to 1st Lieutenant on February 22, 1945. On June 2, 1945, Lt. Gen. Alexander Patch, Commander of the US Seventh Army, presented the Medal of Honor and Legion of Merit to Audie. The Legion of Merit was awarded for his outstanding services with the 3rd Infantry Division from January 22, 1944 to February 18, 1945. On June 10, Audie left Paris by plane and arrived in San Antonio Texas 4 days later. On September 21, 1945, Audie was discharged from the Army. After the war, Audie became an actor and starred in 44 films over 25 years. He published an Autobiography called To Hell and Back which was later made into a hit movie in which he played himself.
On May 28, 1971 Audie Murphy was killed when the private plane he was flying in, crashed in heavy fog near Roanoke, Virginia. Audie Murphy was the most decorated American combat soldier of the war. He was awarded every American medal for bravery and several foreign awards. is list of medals include:
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross
Silver Star with First Oak Leaf Cluster
Legion of Merit
Bronze Star Medal with "V" Device and First Oak Leaf Cluster
Purple Heart with Second Oak Leaf Cluster
U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal
Good Conduct Medal
Distinguished Unit Emblem with First Oak Leaf Cluster
American Campaign Medal
European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France)
World War II Victory Medal
Army of Occupation Medal with Germany Clasp
Armed Forces Reserve Medal
Combat Infantry Badge
Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar
Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar
French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre
French Legion of Honor, Grade of Chevalier
French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star
French Croix de Guerre with Palm
Medal of Liberated France
Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm
I'm sorry Mr. Kerry but your not worthy of polishing Audie L. Murphy's boots! _________________ Proud to be an American! and member of the PAJAMAHADEEN
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JN173 Commander
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 341 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:43 am Post subject: |
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What galls me about the comparison is that if you read the citiation for Lt. Murphy's MOH he used a .50 cal to break up the infantry attack. According to Kerry that's a war crime. _________________ A Grunt
2/503 173rd Airborne Brigade
RVN '65-'66 |
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FreeFall LCDR
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 421
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:19 am Post subject: |
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So Audie Murphy was awarded all these medals,
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross
Silver Star with First Oak Leaf Cluster
Legion of Merit
Bronze Star Medal with "V" Device and First Oak Leaf Cluster
Purple Heart with Second Oak Leaf Cluster
U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal
Good Conduct Medal
Distinguished Unit Emblem with First Oak Leaf Cluster
American Campaign Medal
European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France)
World War II Victory Medal
Army of Occupation Medal with Germany Clasp
Armed Forces Reserve Medal
Combat Infantry Badge
Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar
Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar
French Fourragere in Colors of the Croix de Guerre
French Legion of Honor, Grade of Chevalier
French Croix de Guerre With Silver Star
French Croix de Guerre with Palm
Medal of Liberated France
Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm
And Kerry supporters are trying to compare Kerry's record to Murphy's? What absolute gall. Murphy was a true hero and what's more he didn't come home and blast his fellow soldiers either. Also, quick question, how long was Murphy in the service? |
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Son of a VET Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 791 Location: TN
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:47 am Post subject: |
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One very to the point email fired off! _________________
Stolen Honor |
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Truegrit Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 246 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:15 am Post subject: Need MOH recipients to stand with SBVT |
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It would be great to line up the nation's MOH recipients and have them come forward on behalf of the SBVT campaign to get the truth out about Kerry -- along with other highly decorated Vets.
The American public needs to be made aware of the fact that our country's veterans overwhelmingly oppose Kerry, and that Kerry has very little support within the U.S. military. They need to be made aware of the terrible risk to our national security that a Kerry presidency would pose, should he be elected.
Sadly, John McCain greatly hurt the SBVT's effort to get the truth out. But that can't stop us. We must fight, fight, fight to make sure Kerry does not get to the White House. _________________ Ted Harwood, Ph.D.
Enlisted, U.S. Army ('57-'60) |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Need MOH recipients to stand with SBVT |
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Truegrit wrote: | It would be great to line up the nation's MOH recipients and have them come forward on behalf of the SBVT campaign to get the truth out about Kerry -- along with other highly decorated Vets. |
21 Medal of Honor Recipients on BC'04 Site _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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