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CandiM LCDR
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Not entirely on-topic, but I something I first zoned-in on during the 2000 campaigns showed-up in Little Johnny's words above--
Has anyone else noticed that Dems are constantly talking about "fighting"?--They're all the time talking about what they're "fighting" for--Throughout the whole run-up to the Y2K election, I noticed that, whereas Gore was always talking about what he would "fight" for, Bush kept telling us what he was going to work toward--Gore and the Dems were always angry and W was always coming across as optimistic and hard-working--
It may be of no significance, but in light of the political climate that's existed in and been getting ever worse in this Country ever since, it kind of seems pretty obvious to me who the "dividers" really are--And I think that Edwards nailed it in that last quote above: All they've really been fighting for these last four years has been revenge against GWB for the election that they perceived to have been "stolen"--What's going to work for the betterment of America as a whole seems to have been of little import to them so long as they were not in power as the majority--"Can't allow anything to get done on his watch because he'll get credit for it--Can't let that happen!"--
When I think about it, considering all the "fighting" the Dems have been doing, it's pretty astonishing that W and the Republican majority in Congress have managed to get anything done at all--
Sorry for the thread drift--C _________________ “I haven’t seen anyone milk this much out of a bad boat ride since Gilligan” -- Dennis Miller |
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Lance_Flatchew Ensign
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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They didn't even include the 50,000 new fireman he has been promising. They ought to have a better list.
Of course if he does raise taxes he will raise more on the rich. What was the pre-Reagan top rate 76%.
Then there are some old tax on wealth schemes that the Dems have floated before. A "one time" surcharge of 15% on IRA's and 401 savings proposed during Clinton years. _________________ http://www.tangate.com
Yes, you can lie about your war record. You can lie about spending Christmas in Cambodia. You can lie about ... atrocities of your fellow soldiers. But we are going to nail you on tangate 04. |
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jim_nyc Seaman
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 198
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I saw Edwards on three Sunday morning programs (ABC, NBC & FOX). All three ambushed him ( well...I mean they did to him what they usually do to republicans). It appeared he thought he was going to get the usual softballs. I was surprised to see him actually get some fastballs. Stephanopolus (sic) even asked him to say what 3 mistakes he has made as a politician. He could only think of two and one had to do with an appointment approval (Paige sec of edu).
I just hope some democrats were watching because Edwards did not do a good job of defending the ticket what so ever.
Bush team needs to go into overdrive and use his appearances for campaign fodder all next week and beyond. _________________ NEED SOME WOOD? |
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Tacan70UDN PO2
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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When you force the two Johns to get into factual details, they can't do it. Makes you wonder what they would do if, God forbid, they actually got into office. (I shudder to think of it! ) |
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Inatizzy Former Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Tacan70UDN wrote: | When you force the two Johns to get into factual details, they can't do it. Makes you wonder what they would do if, God forbid, they actually got into office. (I shudder to think of it! ) |
Why, whatever do you mean? They would flutter their eyelashes, toss their beautiful hair, speak sweet nothings....and the rest of the world would fall at their feet.
Either that, or we'd be nuked within a week.
Anybody wanna lay odds? |
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Somebunny Ensign
Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm assuming it is a rerun of what ya'll saw earlier, but they are about to play this on Fox right now. (It's 5:15 eastern time.) |
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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With all the crap these guys say, you need 2 Johns... |
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Inatizzy Former Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't we just start calling the both of 'em "John-John" since they're clones of each other and seem to have a VERY (cough) "friendly" relationship. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:41 am Post subject: |
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neverforget wrote: | Paraphrase:
"I didn't attend intelligence briefings, but I can criticize the president based upon what I read in the NYT, LAT, and WP." |
"I voted for the war, before I voted against it".
"I voted for the 87 billion, before I voted against it".
"The wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time".
Need I quote more? |
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ord33 Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | WALLACE: But again, just to clear it up, I just want to make clear that you're saying that even Kerry's cherished health-care plan, he would cut that back before he would add to the deficit or raise taxes on the middle class?
EDWARDS: We will not raise taxes on the middle class, as John said clearly. And we will cut back -- we will cut back on our programs if it's necessary to make sure that that happens. |
Wallace did a tremendous job interviewing Sen. Edwards, but I just wish he would have worded this question differently. When Wallace said middle class, he should have said anyone under $200,000. The Kerry Campaign will parse words, and redefine the definition of "middle class" and get away with this crap. If he would have asked Edwards specific numbers, he would have held his feet to the fire, and Edwards would have been in much deeper than he already was. Kerry said in the debate clearly "looking straight into the camera" that he would not raise taxes on anyone making less than $200,000 and in fact lower taxes. This is absolutely ridiculous, and I dont believe it for one second! |
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lrb111 Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: |
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CandiM wrote: | Not entirely on-topic, but I something I first zoned-in on during the 2000 campaigns showed-up in Little Johnny's words above--
Has anyone else noticed that Dems are constantly talking about "fighting"?--They're all the time talking about what they're "fighting" for--Throughout the whole run-up to the Y2K election, I noticed that, whereas Gore was always talking about what he would "fight" for, Bush kept telling us what he was going to work toward--Gore and the Dems were always angry and W was always coming across as optimistic and hard-working-- |
It's actually part of the Dem methodology of politics. Promise anything and everything to everyone. Then claim they will fight for it.
This brings up the concept that there is a collective of bogeymen to fight against.
Then when they fail, a perpetual problem, they blame the bogemen for blocking, underminig, lying, cheating, etc..
BUT if you will vote for them again they will Continue to fight the good fight for Your interests.
I also have miles of beach front property in west Texas for sale... _________________ said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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Stevie Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 1451 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:13 am Post subject: |
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rparrott21 wrote: | Is John McCain the only person who supports these guys...making me sick, every time these guys talk its John McCain.. |
yeah, I hope he runs out here again - so I can vote against him --- and tell people WHY ! WHAT A turncoat....no wonder W keeps him in sight! _________________ Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged. |
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P. Aaron Commander
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 322 Location: the grassy knoll
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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The only fiscal responsibility John Kerry has ever exercised has been in comparing the net worth one heiress to another. _________________ A willing tool of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" since 1981. |
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