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Why Kerry will NEED to reinstitute the DRAFT
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joesmoe25
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need to start our own email chain to tell young Americans the TRUTH:

Subject: MANDATORY Service for Young Americans

An email chain was recently started to scare young Americans into believing that Bush and the Republicans were planning to bring back the draft. That email even pointed to specific legislation in the works (S 89 and HR 163). The legislation does actually exist and it does call for 2 years of MANDATORY service for all people between the ages of 18 and 26. You can read about it here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.R.163:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN00089:

The only problem is that the legislation listed was actually introduced by DEMOCRATS (Charles Rangel and Ernest Hollings), not by the Republicans. The House Bill was cosponsored by 14 Democrats. Thankfully, Republicans in the House defeated the bill. In fact, the only people who actually voted for the bill were Democrats.

Democrats are now claiming those bills were just political statements and were not really serious attempts at reinstating a draft; however, John Kerry himself posted a plan on his website that also called for MANDATORY SERVICE for young Americans. Probably fearing political fallout from younger voters, that plan has been removed from John Kerry’s website. However, you can still see it listed on sites that archive older versions of other websites:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040210043828/www.johnkerry.com/issues/natservice/

President Bush and the Republicans have consistently said that they would not reinstate the draft. The only people who have proposed and supported mandatory service programs are John Kerry and the Democrats. If elected, Kerry and the Democrats are free to revive those old plans and try to enslave America’s youth in mandatory service programs. It’s time for America to know the truth about John Kerry and the Democrats.
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Boundless
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voters influenced by the draft issue need to know not just
that it's a urban legend intended to hurt Bush, but that
there is a deeply sinister truth concealed within it about
Kerry & Edwards.

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The Draft Hoax of 2004 - edition 2004-10-10.11:20

Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
We have here a case of the
"Reverse Big Lie"

Not only is the "secret Bush draft" a lie,
the truth is a secret Kerry-Edwards draft.

The Kerry camp coordinators have fired up a series of scare
ads on the draft. As is usual for "progressives", accusing
their opponents of what they themselves are doing.

Kerry has accused Bush of having a secret draft plan, based
on no evidence at all. Kerry himself has been trying to
cover up his own statements. What would a President
Kerry be likely to do?

Before getting to the details, it's important to note that
this issue is not primarily about a military draft. It's
about Universal National Service (UNS). Stealing two years
from every life, then 3, and heck, why stop there ...

And National Service is less about service than about
indoctrinating the slaves by controlling the agenda of
the approved forms of service.

But make no mistake about it, if Kerry is elected, they'll
also need a draft to meet military manpower requirements,
because voluntary enlistments and re-enlistments will drop
to near zero. The National Guard is already seeing signs
that people are waiting to see who will be the next
President.

Furthermore, it will be very dangerous to be in a Kerry
military. Apart from more Mogudishu disasters, expect
the troops to be exposed to random war crimes tribunals.

The Bush Administration has done zero to move toward a
draft and does not support it.

The only bills submitted are by Democrats.
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR00163:
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN00089:

The House forced a vote on HR 163 in early October,
and it was defeated by a massive 402-2 vote. Even
its own sponsor (Rangel) voted against it. Yet the
draft hoax continues. Let's look a bit deeper.

HR 163 (aka SB 89), bears the title:
"Universal National Service Act of 2003"
it includes the provision:
"...or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the
national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes."

... and for other purposes ...

This was way more than a military draft bill.
It was conscription for completely undefined and
arbitrary purposes - involuntary servitude, i.e. slavery,
doing whatever bidding the ruling class might prescribe.
Fear the ruling class that advocates mandatory national
service.

Bush has said he'd veto HR 163. Keep in mind also
that the SecDef when the draft was shut down was
Donald Rumsfeld, and Rummy has made recent comments
that his disdain for the draft has not since changed.

Kerry has said exactly nothing about HR163 specifically.

Although Kerry and Edwards are on the campaign trail
promising to oppose a "draft", they in fact support
UNS, but are hiding that. And even if they were to
oppose UNS, you already know what a Kerry promise
or position is worth.

Where have they been on this issue?

Kerry has removed pages, formerly at:
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/natservice and
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/100days/communityservice_high.html
A copy of the latter was saved from the memory hole here:
http://www.mcgath.com/kerryslavery.html

"As President, John Kerry will ensure that every
high school student in America does community
service as a requirement for graduation. . . ."

The current K+E National Service is more watered down:
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_service/
Apparently, the older position was too honest.

And Edwards? Go see:
http://www.senate.gov/~edwards/issues/educ/service.html

Under the Kerry plan, of course, we can expect
exemptions for the children of rich politicians.

The Selective Service System is already in place, and
could be reactivated in the event of some unforseen
emergency (Canada threatens to invade us Smile. If Kerry
is defeated, the SSS, unneeded since Vietnam, is most
likely to remain right where it is today - dormant.

> This scare is getting to people on the college campus.
> It has to be responded to, not minimized and disregarded.

So share what I've written with them. Have them read
the legislation and check out the sponsors. Tell them
to do their own research on what Bush people have said,
and what Kerry & Co. have historically advocated. Tell
them to look at which faction is more likely to stick by
their historical positions.

Someone is lying. The only question is who.

Kerry is leading the naive into a trap. He's opened
a "hide out from the draft" shelter and invited the
kids to come in.

After it's too late, the sign will be pulled off to
reveal a new sign:

Universal National Service Processing Center
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Rdtf
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush campaign needs to drum home the point of where does Kerry expect to get those 40,000 active duty troops he is promising...
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tony54
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mork and Mindy will definetly reinstate the draft, there is no other option
for them to increase the military by 40,000 troops.
But he will put them under the control of the UN (the French).
His allegiance is NOT WITH OUR BLESSED COUNTRY.
Those ardent Democrats better beware, he will not discriminate if he were elected.
He will screw all races, color, creed or party affiliation as long as it suits his purpose!
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buffman
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so fast! He will more than likely be held partially in check by a Republican Congress---which will have to approve the draft--I do know many great patriots will leave the military in droves. I retired after 27 years and have been thinking one more hitch with the Guard but no way in Hades if Kerry is elected.
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