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ccr · Commander Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 325

I just went through the 22 page law suit against Bill O Reilly that is posted up over at http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html (the really good stuff starts here http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris5.html)if you have a few minutes, it does make for a very entertaining read.

A few impressions.....

1. I can just hear that pompous ass saying some of the things that he is being accused of saying. Print out a copy of some of the juicy pages while his show is on the air and read them.
2. "The Zone" isn't spinning -- it's vibrating.
3. I'd love to get through on "The Radio Factor" tomorrow and say, you know Bill, watching Teresa Heinz Kerry after the debate last night, I was struck by the impression that she is a woman who needs to blow off some steam -- every girl does" (read the law suit, page 7).
4. True or not, I'm having a hard time feeling bad for Bill O'Vibley. Maybe if he had been more fair and balanced to SVPT, I might take a different view.
5. If it is true, what a total slime he is.
6. How do these lines ever work on women?
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bhlewis · Ensign Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 63

I really doubt its true. This just reeks of CNN hitpeace. If it is true it shows why BO didn't read "Unfit for Command". He was too busy trying to score with his producer.

ProudDaughterofVet · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject:

While this is OUTRAGEOUS behavior if true, I pray it is not. IT is Fox news that will suffer and we all better know that right up front. I will make no judgements, as a woman, I have seen these accusations made in the work place before..only to find out, they have been fabricated..Let us be very very careful here..two futures are at stake..

From Smoking Gun..it is the quotes that concern me most..they are what seems to me to be verbatim..How O could even get himself close to being sued..makes me ill. However, he is countersuing, dollars..can i hear him making arrogant comments? yes, but to be honest, I just can not see him doing this..I pray not..and if that person is lying..God help her..because I will NEVER forget it. These things take place in the workplace, and when one person falsely accuses another it only makes the true cases falter...

PD
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arymann · PO3 Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 269 Location: GA

I don't know if what this woman alleges is true, and really don't care. If she was so disturbed by him, why did she go back to work for him?
And, you can always hang up on the telephone.

That said, the few times I've listened to his radio show, I've been somewhat offended by the way he talks to his female associate (is it Laurie Dhue?) on the program. My impression one day was that he was making some suggestive remarks about what she was wearing and complimenting her looks. I thought it was inappropriate, and wondered why she put up with it.

He is arrogant enough to think he could get away with anything. I'm tired of him!

Hammer2 · PO2 Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas

BOR is the #1 rated show on cable.

BOR is hated by the left.

The law firm threatening BOR is full of Democrat activists.

The woman involved engineered a round trip from Fox to CNN and back to Fox collecting pay raises each time. Could her return from CNN be a plant?

In 22 pages of complaints, the one thing consistant is this woman going to Dinner with BOR, talking on the phone after work with BOR, maintaining contact with BOR. If she was being harrassed, why go near him?

During this time she allegedly records the meetings and conversations.

During this time she takes 0 actions to lodge a complaint using Foxs' anti-harrassment policy.

Tapes mean nothing. BOR has plenty of his voice on tape from his show. A good tech with the right editing software can easily splice together words and synthesize new ones to create incriminating conversations. Don't forget Terry McAulliff spent millions to create a state of the art audio/visual center for the DNC.

I'm sorry people, despite our opinions of BOR, this STINKS
This woman is the Dems' new Anita Hill. Sexual harrassment is a tried and true method for sleazy Democrat political operatives to bring down their enemies.

BOR deserves support on this.
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Guest · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject:

I believe BOR can create a hostile environment, but as for the rest somebody is smoking!!!!! If it were true BOR would be hanging his dirty laundry out for everyone to smell making a big houpla out of it. PlzzzzzzzzzzzzzzBOR give us a break!!!!!

ccr · Commander Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 325

In spite of the irreverent tone of my post (hey, I'm a smoking gun fan), here is how I genuinely feel.

There are men out there who sexually harass women. There are women out there who lie about being sexually harassed.

I know plenty of people view all women who make such charges as liars and plenty of others who think all men accused of such things are guilty.

I certainly agree that if this was happening and she had a problem with it, she shouldn't have come back from CNN unless she wanted more of it.

That said, there are some very credible aspects of her filing. She does make a charge that deserves to be taking seriously.

As to the part about her lawyers being Democratic activists -- what other kind of lawyer is there in NYC?
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Slednfool · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject:

arymann wrote:

DADESID · Seaman Joined: 07 Jul 2004 Posts: 157

O'Reilly is a jackass.

His "no spin" mantra is a crock.

I remember about a year ago, he was doing a piece on "gun control", and he implied that the "assault weapons" ban was about keeping bazookas and machine guns "off of the street".

He's a liar and a fraud.

peter · Lieutenant Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 214

IT IS TRUE

Come on, BOR is a fraud; he is neither conservative OR moral.

Finally Finally Finally some victum of this abuser stand ups and says the truth.

HE is NOT a christian, HE is NOT a conservative and most of all HE is NOT "looking out for you".

I believe ANYONE before I believe that liar.

Chukkal · Ensign Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 69

I don't have a clue if these charges are true but I have always "sensed" a different side of BO when he interviewed Playboy bunnies or porn stars. He was always too cutsey and pandering..... I even got uncomfortable during his debate sessions with Arthell (sp?)......I believe Arthell is now a co-host on the LA Live show in the mornings.

Hammer2 · PO2 Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas

Remember folks, Fox is the only network that is even attempting to be fair to both sides.
Without Fox, there would only be talk radio and the internet, nothing to balance ABCCBSNBCCNNMSNBC on television.
If the left can discredit BOR, they can use it to discredit Fox.

It is always possible that BOR is a creep to women, but here we are 20 days before a major defining election and the Dems are pulling out every dirty trick in their arsenal.
What is the likelyhood that this just popped up now because BOR is a creep? What is the likelyhood this is a setup to take out Fox?

The Dems play for keeps. This is do or die for them. Their party has not controlled the House since 1994. They have not controlled the Senate for 8 of the last 10 years. They have not had the White House for 4 years.
For a party that depends on distributing goodies to it's interest groups in exchange for their votes, they are running out of things to offer. The longer they are out of power, the weaker their coalition becomes. Eventually they will become a permanent minority party because their support organizations will peel off to seek deals with the group in power.
They now face the possibility that they will lose the courts too. Without the activist judges they pack the benches with, none of their agenda gets enacted.
That is the real reason they are risking everything this year.
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ProudDaughterofVet · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:23 pm Post subject:

http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/community/tvshow.jsp#a

Above is the link to BOR's response..and he is talking Lawyer talk..I waited all day for this to hear what he had to say..seems he is looking out for HIMSELF again..well, we shall see. AS I said although I am no longer a BOR fan, I am upset by this. How the mighty have fallen...hard.

PD
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Steve Z · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject: Bill O'Reilly accusation

I really don't know the truth about this, which will have to be decided by a court of law. But sometimes, men in positions of power can be corrupted by their own ego into thinking they can use power for sexual gratification--Bill Clinton, former Senate candidate Jack Ryan, Kobe Bryant (maybe), Teddy Kennedy, and others.

This COULD be a CNN plant--one wonders why the woman came back to O'Reilly after moving to CNN, if she knew he would do such things--was SHE selling her attractiveness to O'Reilly? But it wouldn't surprise me if O'Reilly let his ego get out of hand, and forgot what got him where he is--his earlier devotion to getting the truth out about the news! O'Reilly may have had a few distractions recently (is he now a Fox in the henhouse?), and maybe that clouded his judgment about Kerry and the SBVT.

If O'Reilly was such a good Catholic, he should remember Exodus 20:14 !!!

Maybe O'Reilly should take a month off from broadcasting and get his head straightened out, and Fox News fans can get some no-spin fair and balanced truth from the Tony Snow Factor, just in time for the election! Guest hosts do give the SBVT a fairer treatment than O'Reilly did!
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rparrott21 · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:36 pm Post subject:

Rush and Bill,,,,bring them down....A Democrats dream..