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Mary Ann Parker
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:18 pm    Post subject: Help!! Administrators & All Vets-Research Needed Reply with quote

I found this item on a very anti-Bush site.

Is it possible to find out if Mr. R. Ramirez is in Texas? Or was?
R Ramirez
SSG, USA RET 1974-1994


He seems so anti-Bush and I noticed his rank and long service.

I just have a hunch. No harm in looking.

Thanks.
Make it a great day.

Mary Ann Parker
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need at LEAST a complete first name.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of our guys signed up for a mil search engine. He migh be able to help. Here was the thread. http://tinyurl.com/6slwl

If you will PM me the url for the site/thread you are flagging i'll give it a go with a few of my tools.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a free site - you need a first and last name and it doesn't include any Reserve time you might have done after active duty, (I know, because it has my rate at the time I left active, but not my promotion during my time in the Reserves) but it will at least give you whether or not someone by that name served and the rank they achieved:

http://www.military.com/Military/Locator/New/Splash/?loc=QL
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible to be Regular Army with 20 years active duty and still only be an E-6? Just asking. I'm not familiar with Army advancements and how quick you go up the ranks.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which website did you find this anti-Bush posting? It may be possible to back-trace from there.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

docford wrote:
Which website did you find this anti-Bush posting? It may be possible to back-trace from there.


Let's exchange that information via PM, hm?

Nothing on this board which would tend to incite inter-board wars. Thanks! :)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye Aye
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that current Army regs allow E6s to stay to 20 years if the retention control point (RCP) is set there. While RCPs can vary with time, historically, that's been the RCP for E6. What this means is that is as long as you can serve if you are a nonpromotable E6; you have to retire. To be retained after 20 yrs, generally you need to be on the promotion list to E7 (or have already been promoted to E7, E8, or E9).

My memory is that the 20 year RCP for E6 has been fairly consistent since the early 1980s.

If I have time, I'll research Army regs and see if it's a hard and fast requirement that non-promotable E6s retire at 20 or if it's subject to variation.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

docford:


An update to my previous post this topic.

Army Regulation 601-280, Army Retention Program, governs the retention of Enlisted soldiers on active duty. Table 3-1, page 8, indicates that non-promotable E6s must retire at 20 years active service. The reg indicates elsewhere that enlisted soldiers may be retained no more than 29 days past this date in order to meet service obligations, and that the 20 year limit is non-waivable.

The publication is available on-line from the US Army Publishing Directorate web site, www.usapa.army.mil, in PDF format.

The current version of the reg became effective in 1999. It changed RCPs for enlisted soldiers. However, if my memory is correct, the 20 year RCP for E5(P) and E6 was not changed. (Never was a personnel type, so I could be mistaken about the last.)

Short answer is that, yes, you can stay for 20 in the Army and retire as an E6. However, that's as long as you can stay without being selected for E7.
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