SwiftVets.com Forum Index SwiftVets.com
Service to Country
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

"Mission Accomplished" not appropriate for Kerry

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    SwiftVets.com Forum Index -> Geedunk & Scuttlebutt
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doc Jerry
Commander


Joined: 28 May 2004
Posts: 339

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: "Mission Accomplished" not appropriate for Kerry Reply with quote

It now appears the J.F. Kerry campaign is using the "Mission Accomplished" banner against Bush. However, what the media and the Kerry campaign don't tell us should J.F. Kerry been president, the banner would have read: "Mission Hopeless."


Cool Medics, we're there when you need us.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Navy_Navy_Navy
Admin


Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 5777

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, they've been using that banner against the President since the carrier landing. Rolling Eyes

That ship had been on station for (if I remember correctly) nine months!

The people on that ship deserved that banner and the huge homecoming that it got, including the visit from the President.

I will never forget the sight of those throngs of enlisted people surrounding him and THAT'S what scares the snit out of the DNC - that many of us won't forget that hour. Wink

Kerry and his ilk are just unmasking their disdain for the military when they pull crap like this.
_________________
~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
msindependent
Vice Admiral


Joined: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 891
Location: Colorado

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I'm concerned the Mission Was Accomplished. At this same time, the brass also said that building the road to democracy was going to be the harder task (or something like that).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
homesteader
PO3


Joined: 17 Sep 2004
Posts: 294
Location: wisconsin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the day President Bush landed on the carrier, he was the meanest, baddest godfather on earth in the minds of the Iraqis and most others in the Middle East. Many may have hated him and even feared him but they respected him. To this day in many parts of the Islamic world if someone wants to make a point that he means business and noncompliance with his wishes will mean a severe pounding, he'll say "I'm going to Bush ya". In other word "Don't mess with me." It started with President Bush (41) in Kuwait.

The concept of a strong man, warlord, godfather, benefactor, champion, is still embedded in the tribal Middlern Eastern mentalities. There is respect for someone who means what he says and follows up by using power like they would use it if they had it.

At the time of the "Mission Accomplished" declaration there was a window of opportunity to significantly neutralize any potential resistance in Iraq. This window was slammed shut, however, by the second guessers and nay sayers in the US who could not tolerate seeing the US be so successful. This revived a defeated enemy that had miscalculated when assuming Bush would behave like Clinton in Somalia. Now they saw an opening to undermine the US at home. Very quickly the Democratic talking points were being parroted by the likes of Al Sadr to be broadcast over Al Jazeera. The MSM was already doing that here in the US.

Kerry says President Bush miscalculated. He sure did. He did not anticipate the duplicity and treachery of Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle et. al. The tragic irony is that when Democrats grandstand about unfortunate events in Iraq, they are blaming the President for developments that are very much a result of their own treasonous behavior.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DaveS
Ensign


Joined: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember watching him land on the carrier and thinking how proud I was of him. How could any true American not have been escapes me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The Balloon Artist
PO3


Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Posts: 262
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They danced in the streets on September 2nd 1945 and how many more men died securing the peace?
_________________
What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
sleeplessinseattle
LCDR


Joined: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 430

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

homesteader wrote:

The concept of a strong man, warlord, godfather, benefactor, champion, is still embedded in the tribal Middlern Eastern mentalities. There is respect for someone who means what he says and follows up by using power like they would use it if they had it...

...The tragic irony is that when Democrats grandstand about unfortunate events in Iraq, they are blaming the President for developments that are very much a result of their own treasonous behavior.


Excellent analysis homesteader and while I don't think there's a direct one for one causation there is definitely strong correlation between the liberal 'blame America first' crowd and the boldness of the terrorists as currently constituted in Iraq. They are definitely emboldened by those weak kneed attitudes spouted ad naseum by the Kerry granola head, sitting duck group.

Sleepless
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cipher
Vice Admiral


Joined: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 902

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry hasn't the sense God gave a goose.

The "Mission Accomplished" was that the MISSION of destroying the IRAQ military and its command structure and securing the capital was ACCOMPLISHED.

That marked the start of the NEXT mission, which is winning the hearts and minds of the people. For the MOST part, that mission is nearly accomplished. It is well on its way to being complete, except for mopping up the pockets of resistance. That will take time, and the CinC *never* implied it would be either FAST or EASY. At no time did he say it was complete or that THAT particular mission was accomplished.

As far as the Navy was concerned (and those were the guys on board that carrier), the mission WAS accomplished. And it WAS. No one can take that from them.

As much as Kerry tries to state otherwise, that dog don't hunt. At least, not for those of us with any sense.

And for that bunch that says Dubya looked silly in that flight suit seem to conveniently forget that Dubya actually RATES wearing it. AND a pilot's aviator wings, thank you very much. He has over 300 hours in combat aircraft, which is a LOT of butt time behind the stick for anyone.

Now Kerry in a flight suit would be totally inappropriate -- outside of the minor detail that if you fly in a military fighter jet and shooting a carrier landing, even as supercargo, you gotta wear the suit. Its SOP and expected.
_________________
USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    SwiftVets.com Forum Index -> Geedunk & Scuttlebutt All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group