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[GenrXr]

Two Delta snipers posthumously received the MOH for their actions in Mogadishu and if I recall correctly they killed a lot of women and children.

Is it possible Haditha is a symptom of a cancerous rules of engagement policy?

Did Haditha need more dead on our side to be politically correct for the troops. If this is the case then the politics being played right now concerning this engagement might possibly damage our ability to wage this war.

edit: removed - Shouldn't our military have a right to kill everything in sight when under attack?
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[JN173]

[BuffaloJack]

GenrXr,

Your post is dangerously close to trying the Haditha incident marines in a public forum. It's probably not your intent but it reads out this way.
What happened at Haditha is a matter best left to a military board of inquiry. It is their responsibility to gather the evidence, take depositions, review the events of the day and evaluate events leading up to the incident. Anything else does everyone an injustice.

Rules of engagement are what they are. It this incident brings about changes, so be it, but there are rules that our fighting men must comply with. Whether the marines in question violated the rules of engagement or not is a matter for the board of inquiry to decide. And they will decide. Speculation on anyone elses part is non-productive and just helps the enemy.

Jack
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[GenrXr]

[GenrXr]

[JN173]

[LewWaters]

Any and all conjecture on our part does not help either these marines or those investigating the incident. Our drive-by leftstream media is trying this in the court of public opinion with the help of people like Jack Murtha.

As stated earlier, this is best left to the investigation teams actually looking into just what happened.

In the meantime, let's afford these Marines the same assumption of innocent until proven guilty anyone else is afforded.

Rules of engagement are what they are stuck with. If the investigations show a need to change, they will be changed, I'm sure.

On a side note, this can quickly turn to a very emotional topic. Let's stay civil and present views consistent with our values as Veterans and Americans.

[homesteader]

The facts about what happened are the facts. The inquiry will sort it all out and appropriate action regarding punishment (if warrented) and ROE will follow.

What is devistating about this whole affair is the media and publicity circus that those who have political points to score have created. Many innocent Iraqi's are going to die at the hands of the terrorists during and following any future engagement with our troops. The blame will be placed on our troops. They will follow our troops on routine patrols or raids and create massacre scenes which they will document and publicize with all the finesse of their Hollywood and media allies. I bet M. Moore is already making plans and is hunting for the kid who took the videos in Haditha.

Incidently.....why all the fuss about this incident by the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd. Isn't what they say happened in Haditha what they say has been going on in all of Iraq since the beginning of the war? Why all the extra outrage now? Their reaction to a real (if true) massacre exposes as phoney all their crocodile tears over what they have been calling a genocide by our troops since day one.

[SBD]

Every news report I have read from that timeframe says that the mission was a joint operation with Iraqi forces. Seems odd that the Iraqi forces would not oppose such a massacre and rather joined in it instead.