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SBVT Facts Not In Dispute

 
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ccr
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: SBVT Facts Not In Dispute Reply with quote

Without question, eye witness testimony -- even minutes after an incident -- is not perfect. Part of the spin coming from the MSM is that "distant memories" and the "fog of war" make the accuracy of many of the SBVT charges inconclusive.

However, there are a number of facts that do not appear to be in dispute or have not been challenged. IMHO, these facts should be a point of our focus. Here is my list. I do not think it is all inclusive. Feel free to add any that I have missed. I am not listing sources on these at this point (though I think that would be an important addition):




  1. John Kerry's testimony in 1971 before congress
  2. John Kerry confessed to committing atrocities
  3. John Kerry's statements and testimony were used by the North Vietnamese against American POWs during interrogation and on loud speakers
  4. John Kerry has an unauthorized "V" on his Silver Star
  5. John Kerry was not five miles inside of Cambodia after claiming he was over a period of 30 years
  6. There is not one document or witness other than John Kerry ever placing him in Cambodia
  7. John Kerry has changed his story regarding the Rassman incident on multiple occasions
  8. John Kerry met with representatives of of North Vietnam while still a commissioned officer
  9. John Kerry has not signed form 180 that will permit the release of all documents and medical records
  10. No after action report that documents the required element of hostile fire for the 1st PH has been produced


For a large segment of the American people -- including many who currently say they support Kerry -- if they knew the above were undisputed facts, they would not be able to continue their support.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great outline of facts CCR!

These facts should be hammered as relentlessly as the Kerry campaign and surrogates hammering their lies with the press.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would add

10. There is no after action report that can document hostile fire for the 1st PH
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Part of the spin coming from the MSM is that "distant memories" and the "fog of war" make the accuracy of many of the SBVT charges inconclusive.


Would this include memories of spending Christmas Eve in Cambodia "seared, seared into his memory?" Laughing Rolling Eyes

The evidence of kerry's falsehoods and glory grabbing are firm and mounting. It's his own words hurting him, everyday.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

25-06 -- added with a slight rewording.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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7. John Kerry has changed his story regarding the Rassman incident on multiple occasions.


I think more importantly, Jim Rassman has changed his story regarding the Rassman incident on multiple occasions.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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7. John Kerry has changed his story regarding the Rassman incident on multiple occasions



7a - See: Tour of Duty. Kerrys 'searing thigh wound'
7b. - See: Rassmann being 'blown' into the water from the mine.
7c. - See: The bogus damage report on Kerrys boat which was actually the #3 boat.
7d. - See: No cacualties from "5000 meters of heavy enemy fire"
7e. - See: No damage to the other boats from same fire.
7f. - See: Wouldnt the entire 'floatilla' be dead from that much firepower directed at them at 75 yards????????????????????
7g to 7zz - fill in the blanks on this one!

11. Kerrys testimony before Congress references the Winter Soldier Investigation - long known and proven to be a total fraud and set up.

12. Kerry is in the Commie Hall of Fame in Ho Chi Minn City.
Wait !!! Kerry is a war hero! Only its for the other side... Sad
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