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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject: Kerry's medal "process" OK'd by US Navy |
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Driving home just now, I was listening to ABC News on the radio - and in between two other stories, the reporter says the Navy has validated that John Kerry's medals were correctly issued.
Hello?
Details?
Anyone else hear this? Is this new news or old news?
Admin note: In light of now confirmed developments, I've edited the title. Thanks _________________ MJB
USAF '85-'92
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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MJB LCDR
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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No, I've seen that news story. This was different.
The reporter a half hour ago said the Navy had CONFIRMED that John Kerry's medals were CORRECTLY awarded to him. That's news, big news to this site. I've not seen any other reference to it on the web, although it might have just been announced. _________________ MJB
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I have been listening to talk radio since noon, haven't heard.... |
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The Ghost Seaman
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 160
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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i have been listening all day and didn't hear that ,,if the nave said that they might not have done a full investigation
if it is true drudge will have it after a while |
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Debs Lieutenant
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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Debs Lieutenant
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Navy Rejects Probe of Kerry's War Medals
Reuters
Quote: | WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Navy has rejected a legal watchdog group's request to open an investigation into military awards given to Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry during the Vietnam War, saying his medals were properly approved.
"Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards approval process was properly followed," the Navy's inspector general, Vice Admiral Ronald Route, said in a memo written to Navy Secretary Gordon England.
"In particular, the senior officers who awarded the medals were properly delegated authority to do so. In addition we found that they correctly followed the procedures in place at the time for approving these awards."
In rejecting the request for an investigation made by Judicial Watch last month, Route said that "conducting any additional review regarding events that took place over thirty years ago would not be productive."
Kerry has been criticized by a group of Vietnam veterans called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, about whether he earned the decorations Kerry's campaign has touted during his campaign for the presidency. |
Pretty much what I expected, except that I didn't think the Navy would come out with ANY statement until after the election.
Procedurally correct.
Rather funny, the attempt to connect Swifts to this action by judicialwatch.org. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Wow...interesting.
John Lehman's signature anyone?
3 DIFFERENT copies of the Silver Star citation?
Combat V?
Lots of questions left unanswered. And coming out with this on a Friday night. Looks like they wanted to drop this hot potato. _________________ MJB
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eXcel Seaman
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 174
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Does this mean they are not contesting his Silver Star with Combat V ?
edit: oops too slow for MJB.
Seems fishy.. no? |
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: |
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This is too political for the Navy Brass. They would not want to risk angering the man who could become their next CIC. Especially after their experience with Clinton.
Not that they wouldn't love to flush John, but they have to protect their service first.
The military is inherently conservative and doesn't like to get involved in politics. _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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Stevie Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 1451 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:27 am Post subject: |
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sounds more than fishy to me....
what's the name of that guy that kerry got into the navy dept high up?
also, saw something else on here about Savage and Limbaugh being shut
up back in mid 80's.... it had to do with Kerry and Harkin going to south america
and the guy who investigated sosmeone else's medals - wrote a book on it...???? _________________ Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged. |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Basically, correct Naval Procedures were followed. It makes NO judgement on whether the process was corrupted at the start by an injection of fraudulent report(s). It does seem odd, however, that they were reluctant to even comment on the "V" device for the SS. |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Basically, the IG has sent a MEMO to SecNav with his recommendations.
(interesting that the memo leaked, since it was internal)
SecNav is the cognizant authority, and he will probably concur with the recommendation -- but not until after the election -- by direction from the President. I don't see President Bush having anything to gain by opening this can of worms at this time, however, I do see an advantage for keeping him on pins-and-needles waiting on the statement from SecNav.
It would be interesting if SecNav issued a statement that they are in receipt of the Memo from the IG. I can think of the perfect one word response "Noted."
For those not familiar with the Navy jargon, this is as close as you can get (officially) to saying "Up yours." (actually, the REAL meaning is much more graphic, and not suitable for women or children to see in type). _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
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cipher Vice Admiral
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:04 am Post subject: |
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There is another possiblity, one which requires that you believe President Bush is a brilliant strategist (or has one or two working for him).
By taking the medals issue COMPLETELY off the table, this removes a potential distractor from the arena.
This would imply he has MUCH bigger fish to fry than going after Kerry's stolen valor. It's already been exposed for what it is, and now it's time to move into the far MORE criminal acts of his later years, his stolen honor.
Of course, if you think Dubya is just a hayseed cowboy who talks funny, and hasn't got the brains God gave a goose, then you can just say he blew an opportunity to torpedo Kerry. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92
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