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LewWaters · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:38 am Post subject:

After reading how the Red Cross wants Saddam and other detainees released after the hand over and all their worry about the US's treatment of prisoners, the one thing I can't find anywhere is their condemnation or their efforts to ensure Americans being held are being treated as fairly as they demand we do.

The IRC seems intent on only making sure we treat detainees witht he utmost of respect and kid gloves, while they continue to behead our people and perpetrate more acts of terrorism against us.

Additionally, even as far back as WW2, the IRC also seemed to be intent on only watching the US while doing half hearted efforts at ensuring the allied prisoners were well treated.

ROTC DAD · Lt.Jg. Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 147

ASPB,

What reality do you live in?

I'm asking because we have memos from the Justice Department (the people who are supposed to uphold our laws) stating that torture is permissable, we have a report from a General who says that we abused detainees, we have at least 37 suspicious deaths of prisoners in US Military custody, we have an IRC report stating we are abusing prisoners, yet you ask if I have proof.

All these people are lying?

Marine4life · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:09 pm Post subject:

We have document after document on Kerry's treason, and traitorist acts. Does any Kerry supporter believe us? The shoe's must go on the left and right foot or it will hurt when you walk. Semper Fi.
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ASPB · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject:

carpro · Admin Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas

I think what we have here is a "failure to communicate" Very Happy

Let's try this. What IS torture? I'll stick my neck out and go first.
I believe it is inflicting physical pain on another person beyond their ability to tolerate it fairly easily. Ergo...doing pushups till you can't do any more is not torture. Driving splinters under fingernails is.

While putting panties on a man's head may be considered abuse...to me it is not torture. Having a dog growl and bark at a person may be frightening , but unless you let the dog get at them, it is not torture.

Beating someone to death is not just torture, it is murder. Dead bodies may indicate a wrongful death but not necessarily torture.

If you have other thoughts on the subject...fire away.
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