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army72 Seaman
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 182
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I believe they were working together long before this story. When Bush wins, the attacks will get really nasty. _________________ Hillary and Kerry in '08? Something smells!! |
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Truegrit Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 246 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject: Explanation from Daniel Okrent, NYT |
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I have had the following exchange with Daniel Okrent, of the NYT regarding the missing 380 tons of HE munitions story. The exchange begins with my most recent letter to him, regarding the issue of fairness in the Time's campaign coverage, a new issue that I raised with him after he responded on the missing munitions story and why they covered it when they did:
"Dear Mr. Okrent,
Thank you for taking the time to pen a personal reply regarding the missing high explosives cache in Iraq, a cache that may have gone missing before the arrival of U.S. troops on the scene in Spring 03. I still maintain that the Times rushed to print with the story in a last ditch effort to derail George Bush's re-election bid.
But let me raise another issue with you, as a test of fairness. Why isn't John Kerry's meetings with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese representatives in Paris on two occasions of interest? If the U.S. media serves as a watchdog for the public interest, then it should examine allegations that bear on the integrity and character of candidates. Kerry's meetings in Paris are surely worthy of much more intense scrutiny than the media has given to date.
Here is a news item pertaining to his Paris meetings:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41106
Considering the fact that he has provided false and misleading claims on a number of issues relating to his Vietnam Service (the Christmas in Cambodia story being just one), it is certainly warranted to look into what happened in Paris in his transactions with the Viet Cong and NV delegations.
If this was a shoe that belonged to a Bush foot, believe me, you and your investigative reporters would be all over this story.
Ted Harwood
Needham, MA
----- Original Message -----
From: Public
To: Ted Harwood
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Daniel Okrent: why no retraction at the NYT?
At 06:53 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
Dear Mr. Okrent,
In a very blatant effort to once again use the NYT news page to queer the election outcome, in favor of Kerry this time, you brought forward a story about missing high explosives in Iraq, implying that this stuff disappeared under the noses of coalition forces.
Yet the facts that are surfacing suggest that the stockpile had been moved before U.S. forces arrived on the scene in Spring 2003.
Why no retraction at the Times?
Are we facing the emergence of the Yellow Journalism of the turn of the last century, of the Hearst newspaper chain which rushed news headlines into circulation without proper fact checking, to stir up war hysteria over the sinking of the Maine near Cuba? Is this the neo-Yellow Journalism of turn of the century, one century later?
I think you and the editors of the NYT need to do some real soul searching, or you will lose credibility with your readership.
Ted Harwood, Ph.D.
TrueGrit Communications Consulting
www.truegritcom.com
Office Phone: 781-444-8271
Dear Dr. Harwood,
I appreciate your concerns about The Times's reporting on the explosives missing from the Al Qaqaa site in Iraq. However, I think it is much too early to come to a conclusion that there is error here. I note three factors in particular: NBC News's clarification of their early report; The Times's on-the-record citation of the unit commander who arrived at Al Qaqaa on April 10 asserting that his troops did not conduct a search; and, finally, some mixed signals from the White House.
This story will, I am sure, continue to play out over the next several days. If The Times is indeed in error, that is certain to become clear, and I will say so in print. Until then, I can only suggest that you -- and I -- examine each charge and countercharge very carefully, and examine the evidence fully, before reaching conclusions.
Yours Sincerely,
Daniel Okrent
Public Editor
N.B.: Any opinions expressed here, unless otherwise indicated, are solely my own _________________ Ted Harwood, Ph.D.
Enlisted, U.S. Army ('57-'60) |
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arlene welker Seaman Recruit
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 44
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I just sent them a blistering letter....(NY TImes)...they are despicable!
I need a shower! |
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mom to many Seaman Recruit
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 7 Location: PA
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Rendell, Governor of Pennsylvania, is a leftwing ******* from the time he was Philadelphia District Attorney.
I think a pre-emptive military demonstration in Harrisburg would be appropriate. Focusing on the anti-military, anti-American stance of Rendell on the military voting issue. |
You've got that right! He is trying to stop military's from PA absentee ballots from being counted if they have not reached here by tomorrow, no matter if they are recieved by election day. But he allowed them during the last primary. Luckily Santorum vows to fight him!!
mom to many, and proud mother of a soldier serving in Iraq
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army72 Seaman
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 182
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I sent one as well. It's good to see that people are very quick to point our their 'mistakes'. Do they back-pedal? Nahh...they'll just dodge until after the election. Expect them to throw more BS out. They've outed themselves as a radical left wing rag that is willing to trade their respectability for a few votes.
Have they made any 'mistakes' accusing Kerry of anything? Did they point out that he has done NOTHING to help in the fight against terror? I don't think they would. The fact that they waited until a week before the election to sling that mud says a lot about them. They are nothing but a shill for Kerry. _________________ Hillary and Kerry in '08? Something smells!! |
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army72 Seaman
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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They also did not verify their story. Sound like CBS? Think this wasn't planned with the Kerry team? They had 2 commercials attacking Bush the same day the story broke. _________________ Hillary and Kerry in '08? Something smells!! |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Moving to Geedunk shortly
Thanks |
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swiftsocks Seaman Recruit
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 41
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I find it EXTREMELY difficult to believe that our military did not know the
exact whereabouts of this large cache of weapons.
During the televised protion of the war, when embedded journalists were
in Iraq, I also recall the use of topical maps which were so precise, they
could practically zero in closeup and tell you the color of socks Saddam was wearing on a given day. Fortunately, a friend sent me this link to
prove my hunch was correct.
Syria-Iraq's WMD Locations, Satellite Images |
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swiftsocks Seaman Recruit
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 41
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thepatriot Seaman Recruit
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe we are considering voting in a person like J.K. It's absolutely absurd . |
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