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DNC about to counter-attack (smear alert)
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kate
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how...did the Dems get their hands on these records?

I know some things are public records, ie credit reports

but some things are not public, ie medical records
and I assume the military,

since Kerrry wont release his..how did he get theirs??

color me confused
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggest that the Swifties talk with Col. Oliver North. He has a high level of credibility, has been through personal attacks by the media, and knows the ropes.

It would be wonderful if he would take up the cause of the Swifties. He could advance the knowledge of sKerry's fabrications very effectively.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I heard credit reports are not public records unless you've given the person who collected the reports your social security number (which are private to prevent among other things identity theft). I'd suggest putting in very plain english any attempt to smear your names using illegally obtained information will be taken seriously and charges will be filed. Libel and slander are illegal, bordering on federal offense, make it very clear you will not tolerate it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually now that I think about it, I'd even go so far as contacting federal authorities with this just to cover your bases. You might be opposed to Kerry but that doesn't exclude you from your rights as Americans to be protected from such malicious attempts.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medical and credit records are private and obtaining them without permission is illegal,The only financial records I can think of that are public is bankruptcy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe that's why they've carefully inventoried them and know exactly to whom they have consigned each copy of the book.

Reporters cannot be forced to reveal their sources, remember?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just speculation here, but I would guess that with the right Washington connections, the SS# of all former military personnel could be obtained.

With that number, the rest would be easy.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should NOT be easy to obtain medical records even with an SS#. They are protected under HIPAA with real jail penalties and fines (up to $250,000, I believe).

If that sort of information is released without the consent of the individual to anyone other than a healthcare provider, we're talking real lawbreaking.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been a long time since I was in the insurance business, but there used to be a data base called Medical Information Bureau (MIB). Anyone with the right connections could get a lot of info from just one partisan insurance executive. Sad

To face legal consequences, they have to be caught. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those databased are secured a lot better now, or their owners are facing the above penalties.

But you're right, catching them is a necessary step.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: DNC about to counter-attack (smear alert) Reply with quote

mattv_ct wrote:
Just so everyone is ready to fight the Left's attack machine:

"“We have prepared what we call ‘Brown Books’ that contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” our source told us. The “Brown Books” are so-called because of their distinctive plain brown covers, which contain no words. Some books have already been delivered to Kerry-friendly reporters. Others are on their way, our source told us. When asked if we could have a copy, our source declined, saying there is a limited number of “Brown Books” and they have been carefully inventoried to control in whose hands the books ended up."


I doubt this is true. Release of such information (for example, credit histories, psychiatric histories) would be an indefensible, tortious invasion of privacy of private citizens (the SwiftVets). The perpetrators would likely go to jail and lose everything they owned.

I, for one, as a physician, would be happy to assist plaintiffs as an expert witness on medical information confidentiality under the HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability) act - a.k.a. the bill covering increased medical privacy, among other areas, spearheaded by none other than Teddy Kennedy!

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