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Bush: Vietnam more heroic than flying jets
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OkiMarine2
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

debinNC wrote:
Would someone tell me if joining the Naval Reserve after your request for a deferment is rejected can truly be called "Volunteering for Vietnam?


This has been discussed in other message threads...

Basically it appears that candidate Kerry, after being turned down for a student deferment to get his Masters in Pollitical Science, went to the Navy and applied for OCS. It can take several months to get a slot - the Navy enlisted him in the Naval Reserve to keep him from being drafted while waiting for a slot. I don't think that procedure was all that unusual.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: It's not unusual, it's the way it's done. Reply with quote

air_vet wrote:
Basically it appears that candidate Kerry, after being turned down for a student deferment to get his Masters in Pollitical Science, went to the Navy and applied for OCS. It can take several months to get a slot - the Navy enlisted him in the Naval Reserve to keep him from being drafted while waiting for a slot. I don't think that procedure was all that unusual.


All officer's except for Academy grads start out as reserve officers. Initially they are enlisted into the inactive reserves as an E-3 until they complete either ROTC or OCS training, at that point they become active reserves. The soonest one can be offered a regular commission is at the two year point.

I do think they now make the top 10% of ROTC graduates regular instead of reserve. But then only academy grads started as reserve officers.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Another point that goes unreported by the MSM!

Kerry's own site shows his enlistment into the -- Reserves.

The difference?

A name. Both could be called.

I have seen references in other posts about Bush volunteering to go but two other pilots got the nod. Where is that source information?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: It's not unusual, it's the way it's done. Reply with quote

cstrick wrote:
I do think they now make the top 10% of ROTC graduates regular instead of reserve. But then only academy grads started as reserve officers.


I can only speak for the Air Force, but "back then" ('64) the top 10% of the OTS graduates were offered a Regular Air Force Commission. (I was one.)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Bush: Vietnam more heroic than flying jets Reply with quote

USAF66-70 wrote:
From Aug 28, 2004 07:56 PM Washington (Reuters) article: Asked if he believed that he and Kerry "served on the same level of heroism," Bush replied, "No, I don't. I think him going to Vietnam was more heroic than my flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't." Also, Bush said: “On the other hand, I served my country. Had my unit been called up, I would have gone."
<REMAINDER SNIPPED>

methinks the RNC (or at least advisors) are reading this board closely.

I salute George Bush for taking my advice in a post a long time ago.

but more so for telling the simple truth.
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