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[SBD]

Kerry May Withdraw Concession
27-Dec-2004

Democratic Presidential Candidate John Kerry is exploring his legal options after learning that there are serious questions about the validity of the vote count in Ohio. On December 23, Senator Kerry's Ohio attorney Jerry Hoffheimer stated on MSNBC's Countdown that the Senator will be seeking to obtain evidence being presented in a recount suit being pressed by the Green and Libertarian parties in Ohio.

It is being alleged that Triad GSI, which supplied voting machines to half of Ohio counties either failed to properly secure the machines or intentionaly interfered with their operation, causing them to produce incorrect vote counts that favored President Bush.

Mr. Hofheimer has said that Senator Kerry is not at this time disputing the President's victory in Ohio, but only seeking assurances that the recount of votes in Ohio counties has been carried out accurately.

Should the Ohio vote be invalidated or another recount reveal that Senator Kerry won the state, a constitutional crisis at least the equal of the 2000 Florida controversy would occur.

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[gmez2001]

[carpro]

I understand the recount is over an Kerry picked up an astounding 300 votes.

I haven't confirmed this yet.
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[Mother]

By hook or by crook.
Sure hate to tell ya'll I told you so....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=368308
TOLEDO, Ohio Dec 29, 2004 — Election officials have finished the presidential recount in Ohio, with the final tally shaving about 300 votes off President Bush's six-figure margin of victory in the state that gave him a second term.
The recount shows Bush winning Ohio by 118,457 votes over John Kerry, according to unofficial results provided Tuesday to The Associated Press by the 88 counties. Lucas County, home to Toledo, was the last to finish counting.
The state had earlier declared Bush the winner by 118,775 votes and plans to adjust its totals to reflect the recount later this week.
The Kerry campaign supported the recount, but said it did not expect the tally to change the election winner. Supporters of the recount, requested by two minor party candidates, said they wanted to make sure every valid vote was counted.


Kerry gained 734 more votes in the recount, and Bush picked up 449, mostly from disqualified ballots that were counted in the second tally because hanging chads had come loose when ballots were handled again or rerun through counting machines.
That put Kerry 285 votes closer to Bush. The president's victory margin declined by about three dozen more votes when some counties adjusted their certified vote totals.
The Green and Libertarian party presidential candidates asked for the recount and raised the $113,600 required under state law for the process.
Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell has estimated that the recount will end up costing taxpayers $1.5 million.
Witnesses who watched workers count ballots by hand and machine said the effort provided assurance that boards were accurately counting ballots.
But the completion of the recount will not bring an end to questions surrounding the vote in Ohio.
A group of voters citing fraud have challenged the election results with the Ohio Supreme Court. The voters, supported by the Rev. Jesse Jackson, have cited irregularities including long lines, a shortage of voting machines in minority precincts and problems with computer equipment.
Attorney General Jim Petro has called the challenge frivolous and argued that the state Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction over a federal election.
Cliff Arnebeck, an attorney representing the voters in the challenge, wasn't taking much stock in the recount effort. He questioned why there was no independent investigation into the accuracy of counting machines to determine whether the machines had been tampered with.
"You're allowing the original error to be repeated a second time, so it's not a meaningful recount," he said.

[Me#1You#10]

[Mother]

The Free Press -- Independent News Media - Election 2004
... Meanwhile, efforts to recount Ohio's vote may have been fatally tainted by the ... the Ohio vote count to make it impossible for a meaningful recount to ...
www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/996 - 31k - Dec 27, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/996
Ohio vote count battles escalate amidst new evidence of potential criminal activity
by Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman
December 18, 2004

The epic legal battle over Ohio's presidential vote count is back in the state Supreme Court, with an election challenge claiming George W. Bush was wrongly declared the winner on Nov. 2 and seeking a court-ordered reversal of that victory.

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Ohio Voting Bombshell
... Legitimacy of Ohio Vote Recount Called Into Question After Probe. By Ken Hoop. After several weeks of utilizing Ohio election laws to demand a recount, ...
www.americanfreepress.net/ html/ohio_voting_bombshell.html - 29k - Dec 28, 2004 -

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/ohio_voting_bombshell.html

Ohio Voting Bombshell

Legitimacy of Ohio Vote Recount Called Into Question After Probe
By Ken Hoop
After several weeks of utilizing Ohio election laws to demand a recount, Third Party presidential candidates David Cobb of the Green Party and Libertarian Michael Badnarik have achieved their first tangible success. Two stunning affidavits recently filed have made it virtually impossible for GOP Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell to tidily sabotage the recount process.

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[Mother]

truthout - Video Supporting Ohio Vote Fraud Claim Revealed
... initial count. The purpose of the Ohio recount law is to randomly check vote counts to see if they match machine counts. By attempting ...
www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml - 18k - Dec 27, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages
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[Mother]

Might want to check this out:

http://blog.democrats.com/ohio

[Me#1You#10]

Here's ABC News' "spin" on the story...I assume the "headline" belongs to ABC and the body of the story to AP...what a pathetic joke...300 votes "closer" in a margin of 118K

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[coldwarvet]

[GM Strong]

It's Over folks. The Electoral College voted. Fini, Done, Mr Lurch and anyone else stupid enough to believe the MSM and Liberal hype. W is still the President. The Libs have got four more years to be miserable.
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[Mother]

Just posted on the internet December 28, 2004, but dated December 18, 2004
Do you suppose it’s a typo?

[GM Strong]

It's Keith Olberman, what else can you say. The goof is a hard left Bushophobe. He is the faux journalistic equivalent of Mo Dowd. All venom, no substance.
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[AMOS]

Instead of withdrawing his concession, he could always open a concession stand in the Senate. At least, then he'd be there.