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[GenrXr]

The Evil Middle Class Tears Down Our Woodlands in Order to Read the New York Times

We are such a wasteful disgusting nation of pigs. We chop down entire forests just to produce a news paper which people throw away at the end of the day. Estimates are that reducing newspaper waste by half we could reduce adverse environmental impacts by 25 percent through reduced landfill use, soil depletion and applications of fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides.

The American public has lost their cultural connections to the agrarian landscape that once dominated the nation.

Until we regain this connection we are nothing more than disgusting filthy pigs.

Of course this is absolutely silly for a number of reasons the main point being lumber companies manage their land to such a great degree that we have an abundant source of wood. So abundant is our supply of wood every year that we can afford as a Nation the luxury of reading a news paper every day then throwing it away. Yet, reading the article ‘Why the middle classes go scavenging in dustbins’ by James Bone writing for the London Times Online we are reminded just how wasteful of a people we are. This is nothing more then anti-capitalist propaganda and he has a willing accomplice in University PhD Timothy Jones who has never seen a head of lettuce which didn’t in some way become tainted by the capitalist system on its way to your plate or the trash bin.

[GM Strong]

Trees reproduce (imagine that ) and as a result we Americans farm and manage trees and forest. (Unlike some third world countries.) Here in Pennsyvania we have more woodlands that we have had in 150 years, the best Hardwood timber in the world and more forested acerage than any other state. The idea that a managed resource that reproduces itself is somehow being wasted and annihilated is drivel. The last time I was up in the Allegheny Highlands, I was surrounded by big trees and there were logging operations going on as well.

I might also mention this is a state with a large rural and agricultural sector as well.
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[dusty]

And to think I used to believe that if you had a PhD after your name, that automatically meant you were smart.
Such a shock to find out I was wrong.

Where do they get these guys and why do we let them talk?

Dusty
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Left and Wrong are the opposite of Right!

[GenrXr]

[I B Squidly]

Good luck with your debate.

You mentioned the Soviet law on dumpster diving but if I remember aright when the USSR collapsed they were experiencing bumper crops that were left to rot in the field as there was no incentive to truck them to metroplitan 'stores' that rationed them.

The noble savages of North America, those paragons of communing with nature were well on the road to decimating the buffalo before the white man made a policy of it. They'ld kill thousands at 'falls' to harvest a few dozen humps and robes leaving the rest to rot.

In the grocery business the better the meat or produce selection the higher the wastage. 40% meat and 60% produce wastage is typical. Indifferent grocers leave it on the shelf which they can only do if their clientel has no option.
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[blue9t3]

My last Wed. paper took at least half of a medium sized tree, Sundays paper was about the same!
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MOPAR-BUYER

[Snipe]

Last month, I took a trip to Vancouver, Washington. My Bro-in-law
took us up to look at Mt. St. Helens. That thing erupted 25 years ago.
The land there is owned by either the U. S. Goverment or the
Weyerhauser Corporation. The U. S. Goverment decided to let nature
take it's course and has done nothing on it's land but put Goverment
"Forest" Rangers there to keep people from roaming around off the
authorized trail. There are signs around everywhere. "It grows by the
inch, and is destroyed by the foot" with the outline of a footprint. Of
course they can take 100 years and "study" the "recovery".

That evil Weyerhauser Corporation on the other hand, logged out the
downed trees on their land and replanted it with douglas fir. They have
a 25 year old forest that is thriving.

Go figure.
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[GoophyDog]

We need to tie this in with that other thread about bio-fuels. There is a dairy farm in, I believe, Minnesota where they use shreaded paper as a supplement to straw bedding.

The kicker is that this bedding, droppings and urine combine and become the food for their power plant, generating enough power via generators and fuel cell technology to power the entire farm (700+ head) and sell some back to the power company.

Yep, we do waste the material BUT only because we have yet to develop the determination to put it to another use - that will come in time. No, we don't need to "reconnect", that's backwards thinking. We simply need to apply what we know to better utilize the excess.

Paper production is far more efficient that we give it credit. Utilizing scrub lumber and fast growing trees it takes considerably less wood than is usually imagined. Oh yea, and Mr. Jones, by making paper, the carbon is still locked up so greenhouse gases remain contained.

As for discarded food - we are a healthier people because we do discard food that is unappealing, spoiled, or marred - common sense.

But, if you insist Mr. Jones, I happen to have some fresh, crisp, rubarb lettuce that I'm sure you would in enjoy in a salad.
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[LewWaters]

One thing that always amazed me about tree huggers whining about dwindling trees and all, is how many have no trouble cutting one down to use for a couple weeks at Christmas tiime? (sorry, Winter Holiday )

I have yet to hear any group complain about (sorry again) Christmas Trees being cut down and left to die.

[homesteader]

Just you wait Lew. It's coming.

[Guest]

[Snipe]

PhD = Piled higher and Deeper.
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Tin Can Sailor

[Army_(Ret)]