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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: Newt Gingrich: "One Nation Under God..." |
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I just happened to catch a promo for this on FoxNews and I thought I'd give everyone a heads-up. I think I can safely guarantee you an enlightening and thought-provoking hour of education, Newt-style.
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Deuce Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 589 Location: FL
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Me#1,
Good catch, that...I saw it as well, and plan to watch....He, of course, will be too 'nice' to the ACLU and other God-Bashers for my taste, but hey...it's a start.
Go Newt
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Well, it was an hour well spent and a nice introduction to what will hopefully be a series of Gingrich lectures. While it certainly wasn't on a par with his wonderful "special orders" lectures during his congressional minority days and was somewhat "pablumized" for easy digestion, you're right Deuce...it's a good start.
One thing I did learn. I was unaware that the FDR memorial had been so methodically sanitized of religious convictions which were so much a part of FDR's life and rhetoric.
I want MORE...and more often |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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I only caught the last 15 minutes, but it was defintely an eye opener. I'll be watching for it to be rerun later this evening (one of the advantages of being on the 'left coast') _________________ Clark County Conservative |
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Fox is also running it on Sunday, 17 Dec, at 4:00 PM ET.
Schadow _________________ Capt, 8th U.S. Army, Korea '53 - '54 |
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kate Admin
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 1891 Location: Upstate, New York
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:17 am Post subject: |
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well presented - aught to be required viewing in civics classes
prompted me to go looking for FDR's Fireside Chats
Quote: | May 26, 1940
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Day and night I pray for the restoration of peace in this mad world of ours. It is not necessary that I, the President ask the American people to pray in behalf of such a cause -- for I know you are praying with me.
I am certain that out of the hearts of every man, woman and child in this land, in every waking minute, a supplication goes up to Almighty God; that all of us beg that suffering and starving, that death and destruction may end -- and that peace may return to the world. In common affection for all mankind, your prayers join with mine -- that God will heal the wounds and the hearts of humanity. |
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one of..... We The People |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have a ton of "Old Time Radio" broadcasts and I love them for their innocence and for what you can learn about our country from them.
That snippet you quoted is so typical of the wartime programs. Even the sitcoms signed off with mention of prayer for "our men and women fighting on foreign shores."
How did we get from having the President invoke Almighty God and mention prayer in just a few sentences... to having a President vilified for the fact that he prays at all?
Incredible, isn't it? _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Newt's mention of Jefferson's 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists in which he used the phrase "wall of separation between church and state" caused me to look up the letter and ponder what Jefferson meant. Newt didn't offer enough analysis, IMO.
Of course, the phrase has become the rallying cry of the ACLU and other organizations trying to remove any expression of religion (particularly Christian religion) from the public square.
It becomes quite clear to anyone reading the letter that Jefferson was merely restating the message of the First Amendment which is that the US Government must not engage in law-making pertaining to religion. It left alone the states rights in the subject.
The ACLU and Americans For Separation of Church and State, or whatever they're called, are just wrong in proclaiming that Jefferson was giving some new interpretation of the Amendment. He clearly wasn't.
Here's the pertinent paragraph of the letter followed by a link to the whole letter:
Quote: | Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state. |
Letter to Danbury Baptists
Schadow _________________ Capt, 8th U.S. Army, Korea '53 - '54 |
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